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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Just curious -

I was reading about replacing the knock sensor (code 43), and the manual said that when the sensor is removed, coolant will begin to leak out. Why is the knock sensor located in a water jacket, when it is supposed to be monitoring engine knocks? Maybe I misread it. Anyone?

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I have an '85 too, and have replaced the knock sensor, you're book isn't lying. If you hold your thumb over the hole, you should be able to replace the knock sensor without losing too much coolant.

It sort of doubles as the coolant drain plug for the block. I'm not sure why they set it up like that...

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Would having a code 43 make the car idle rough? It drives ok, just idles kinda rough.
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I'm not sure if a code 43 itself would make it idle rough...

however- if you have a code 43 either one of two things are happening (i think), the ECM is losing the signal/ground from the ESC module, or it is seeing an extended period of high knock counts (someone will correct me if this info is wrong).

If you're ECM is seeing high knock counts (99.9% of the time false knock), then I would bet that would mess with your idle... maybe because it messes with the timing...

I have had a code 43 in my '85 since I bought it... I have not yet figured out the solution...
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I just had a computer chip and prom installed a few weeks ago. I guess I'll just end up replacing the sensor, and seeing what happens. I have had the car for 2 years, it wouldn't hurt to change it.
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I would try posting this question in C4 Tech - like Mikey, I have had this problem since I purchased my Corvette. Work I and various other folks have done has made it massively better, but it still occurs and in my case it is definitely a real (and ugly) knock...

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Thank you both. I appreciate the info.

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Originally Posted by 1slyder1
Just curious -

I was reading about replacing the knock sensor (code 43), and the manual said that when the sensor is removed, coolant will begin to leak out. Why is the knock sensor located in a water jacket, when it is supposed to be monitoring engine knocks? Maybe I misread it. Anyone?

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Because most liquids amplify sound.The knock sensors are acoustic microphones that listen for engine knock and tell the ECM to retard spark accordingly.
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That makes a lot of sense.

Thanks.

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Ive just changed the knock sensor in mine cos of a code 43 but mine wasnt putting the SES light on until the engine came up to running temp then she was running like crap, the ECU can retard the timing up to 20 degree's.

Have you just got a code 43 or have you got an SES light as well ?

And yes the sensor is screwed into the bottom of the water jacket on the passenger side of the engine just above the oil pan and about half way back,

Leave the car to cool down, just crack off the rad pressure cap to releive any pressure in the system and then do it back up again, when you unscrew the sensor because of the vacume that is created as the water tries to run out you should'nt loose too much, especially if you put your finger over the hole as you take the old unit out.

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Originally Posted by adi4
...mine wasnt putting the SES light on until the engine came up to running temp then she was running like crap, the ECU can retard the timing up to 20 degree's.

Have you just got a code 43 or have you got an SES light as well ?

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My engine idles smooth when I first start it up.

Once the engine warms up, the idle gets rough, rpm idles up and down.
If I wait long enough, the idle will smooth out again for a few minutes.
Sometimes, the check engine light will come on by itself. Other times, it comes on when I put my foot in it.
When I check it, I always get a code 43.
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Originally Posted by 1slyder1
My engine idles smooth when I first start it up.

Once the engine warms up, the idle gets rough, rpm idles up and down.
If I wait long enough, the idle will smooth out again for a few minutes.
Sometimes, the check engine light will come on by itself. Other times, it comes on when I put my foot in it.
When I check it, I always get a code 43.

Those are the exact situations that my Helms manual says will set a code 43...
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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Sounds to me like I will be replacing the knock sensor.
(Couldn't hurt.)
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