Ram Air?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Richfield Utah
Originally Posted by RICEKILA
Posted awhile back was a vid, were two dyno pulls were done on different vehicles. One pull with nothing on the intake the second with a electric leaf blower jamed on the intake. Every car from the F-150 to the 2 ldr. ricemobile made more HP. On my "84" I cut a hole in the top of the rad. cover to match the oval hood opening---
I do feal a difference at top end. As soon as I can measure the air flow I'll post it.
I do feal a difference at top end. As soon as I can measure the air flow I'll post it.
Safety Car
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From: Beautiful Down Town "SWINDLEHURST" Long Island NY
Not really ---- I'm lucky I find my way home sometimes. But I did get the open the top of the rad. cover idea from a forum thread and I did stay at Holiday Inn last nite ( I got lost going home 
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Originally Posted by Steel Breeze
Oh ya, Ram air in heavy rain might be detrimental. I try not to drive in the rain, if I can help it...
I have had ZERO problems with rain. I use to live near Seattle and rain was constant as was my driving. Here is a pic of mine, I like it. I did notice the cars temp a lil lower after the install. I say for sure to get gears before all those other mods and take advantage of what your car already has for power
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Burning Brakes
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From: Richfield Utah
Originally Posted by 2nd2SEX
I have had ZERO problems with rain. I use to live near Seattle and rain was constant as was my driving. Here is a pic of mine, I like it. I did notice the cars temp a lil lower after the install. I say for sure to get gears before all those other mods and take advantage of what your car already has for power
Hey! that is a nice car man. I see you have the air ram I was looking at. Does it have the hose, and air cleaner cover? Did you notice an increase when installed? Yes, I know about rear end gears. My 500HP 74 Camaro has a GM 4:56 12 bolt Posi. I kills in the 1/4 mile, and great to get around town, but freeway use is unfriendly. Even with a red line of 8 Grand. At 55 my tach read 4500 rpm. 75 mph would be pushing things. I don't hold her a 8 grand for only a fraction of a second, then shift. I guess 75 mph would be around 6 maybe 6500 revs. The car came with 2:73's , and was a fast car then. Crazy as it sounds I fuel injected that mean motor, and mellowed out the cam and manifold a little. It actually gets better mileage now "go figure". I think a good gear would be around 3:56. Mileage probably wouldn't suffer, and I do have overdrive. You have to understand, I love to tinker 
I appreciate your response. Who would know you would have the same air system that I have been looking at. 
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Ram air won't show you dyno results, so some will tell you it's useless.
I picked up a full 10% increase in highway mpg with the ram air that installs under the nose. (SLP, ~$175) So its obvious the motor is making more power with it.
I think it's worth it for the price. I don't have any 1/4 comparisons with it.
I picked up a full 10% increase in highway mpg with the ram air that installs under the nose. (SLP, ~$175) So its obvious the motor is making more power with it.
I think it's worth it for the price. I don't have any 1/4 comparisons with it.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
I have 4" of ground clearance and drove through a 3" deep river crossing 40' across with the bottom sucking intake. I was VERY careful and very slow, and idling, but had no hydrolocking.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Richfield Utah
Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Ram air won't show you dyno results, so some will tell you it's useless.
I picked up a full 10% increase in highway mpg with the ram air that installs under the nose. (SLP, ~$175) So its obvious the motor is making more power with it.
I think it's worth it for the price. I don't have any 1/4 comparisons with it.
I picked up a full 10% increase in highway mpg with the ram air that installs under the nose. (SLP, ~$175) So its obvious the motor is making more power with it.
I think it's worth it for the price. I don't have any 1/4 comparisons with it.
Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I have 4" of ground clearance and drove through a 3" deep river crossing 40' across with the bottom sucking intake. I was VERY careful and very slow, and idling, but had no hydrolocking.
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From: Shelton CT
Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Ram air won't show you dyno results, so some will tell you it's useless.
I picked up a full 10% increase in highway mpg with the ram air that installs under the nose. (SLP, ~$175) So its obvious the motor is making more power with it.
I think it's worth it for the price. I don't have any 1/4 comparisons with it.
I picked up a full 10% increase in highway mpg with the ram air that installs under the nose. (SLP, ~$175) So its obvious the motor is making more power with it.
I think it's worth it for the price. I don't have any 1/4 comparisons with it.
That's what I saw with mine on my '85 vette..I tested it on the track when it was only running low 13's and mildly modified and the ramair gave me .15 better ET and 1MPH faster than the open filter cover with K&N. This is about 15-20HP more than the bone stock setup.
And yes, the more mods you have the more you will gain from ram air. So whoever said it wasn't so should stop reading magazine and try to do some real world mods and testing before making claims.
People are too worried about hydro locking. I have NEVER had anythign even close to a problem and I used my '85 as a daily driver, be it rain or shine. Use common sense and DON'T try to go through 2 feet of standing water and you'll be fine.. LOL
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Burning Brakes
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From: Richfield Utah
Originally Posted by MrNuke
That's what I saw with mine on my '85 vette..I tested it on the track when it was only running low 13's and mildly modified and the ramair gave me .15 better ET and 1MPH faster than the open filter cover with K&N. This is about 15-20HP more than the bone stock setup.
And yes, the more mods you have the more you will gain from ram air. So whoever said it wasn't so should stop reading magazine and try to do some real world mods and testing before making claims.
People are too worried about hydro locking. I have NEVER had anythign even close to a problem and I used my '85 as a daily driver, be it rain or shine. Use common sense and DON'T try to go through 2 feet of standing water and you'll be fine.. LOL
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Burning Brakes
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From: Richfield Utah
Originally Posted by JD'S WHITE 93
I would do a gear swap first. You don't have to run anything extreme in your car a 3.45 rear would wake it up big time. Just my .02
No, I've built my share of race - n - replace cars in my time. A gear change would do wonders, but the expence, and the job itself is torture. I think I'll just do some easy stuff to it. Then take the wife cruising around the state to look at the sights we have around here in Utah, and I'll just keep hittin the gym. I love to High Tech Tinker. I am an electonics tech. and am a little warped in the head Thanks for the advice. I love this vette stuff. I had a 74 a few year ago, but the electronics in these newer gen. vettes and the performance difference is exiting as H--- to me.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Richfield Utah
Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I stuck the end of my SLP ram air out the moonroof of my truck at 60 mph. It works.
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Originally Posted by Steel Breeze
Hey! that is a nice car man. I see you have the air ram I was looking at. Does it have the hose, and air cleaner cover? Did you notice an increase when installed? Yes, I know about rear end gears. My 500HP 74 Camaro has a GM 4:56 12 bolt Posi. I kills in the 1/4 mile, and great to get around town, but freeway use is unfriendly. Even with a red line of 8 Grand. At 55 my tach read 4500 rpm. 75 mph would be pushing things. I don't hold her a 8 grand for only a fraction of a second, then shift. I guess 75 mph would be around 6 maybe 6500 revs. The car came with 2:73's , and was a fast car then. Crazy as it sounds I fuel injected that mean motor, and mellowed out the cam and manifold a little. It actually gets better mileage now "go figure". I think a good gear would be around 3:56. Mileage probably wouldn't suffer, and I do have overdrive. You have to understand, I love to tinker I appreciate your response. Who would know you would have the same air system that I have been looking at. Thanks a bunch for the compliment, we all love to hear 'em. I do have the hose and filter cover as well. Well seems like you are familiar with gears. If you bust that move I say go with 3.07s or 3.45-3.54s. So send me some pics of that camaro, sounds bitchin. Shop around for the A/O Engineering intake. I bought it used through this forum several years ago.
I could say I noticed a diff when installed but many if not all butt-o-meters wouldnt register a .1-.3 difference. I did notice lower coolant temps howeverHere is another pic for you
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as for your intake filter question here are two pics for ya
My K&N after about 6 months of daily driving
Here is the opposite end
I usually clean it every 3 months but I was overseas part of that time
This same K&N has been cleaned and reused for about 3-4 years, my first "mod".
My K&N after about 6 months of daily driving
Here is the opposite end
I usually clean it every 3 months but I was overseas part of that time
This same K&N has been cleaned and reused for about 3-4 years, my first "mod".
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Burning Brakes
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From: Richfield Utah
Originally Posted by 2nd2SEX
Thanks a bunch for the compliment, we all love to hear 'em. I do have the hose and filter cover as well. Well seems like you are familiar with gears. If you bust that move I say go with 3.07s or 3.45-3.54s. So send me some pics of that camaro, sounds bitchin. Shop around for the A/O Engineering intake. I bought it used through this forum several years ago. I could say I noticed a diff when installed but many if not all butt-o-meters wouldnt register a .1-.3 difference. I did notice lower coolant temps however
I could say I noticed a diff when installed but many if not all butt-o-meters wouldnt register a .1-.3 difference. I did notice lower coolant temps however
Originally Posted by 2nd2SEX
as for your intake filter question here are two pics for ya
My K&N after about 6 months of daily driving
Here is the opposite end
I usually clean it every 3 months but I was overseas part of that time
My K&N after about 6 months of daily driving
Here is the opposite end
I usually clean it every 3 months but I was overseas part of that time
Originally Posted by CentralCoater
My K&N doesn't last long at all at the dusty racetrack. Running the cooling fans probably doesn't help either.
Hey, you guys are OK! Ya, I figured the air filter would pick up more, and larger debri. That's no big deal. On the pics I'll get 1 of the Camaro, and of the Vette. I've got another bug a boo I'm pondering on. ALTITUDE, I live at 5000 ft. I'm not sure you guys' elevations, but I do know at higher altitude your engine HP drops like 8% per 1000 ft. Don't quote me on that as I can't remember the actual #, but it isn't good. Actually there is a big lake up here I like to relax at. Getting there you drive over a summit that is over 12,000 ft. It's a real pretty place. I'll will post a pic of it on this thread, along with the cars. I'm afraid the cars won't match the beauty, and tranquility of the lake.
It is a volcanic crater filled with ice water. My hats of to ya Mr. Sex, that situation over seas is a bitch, takes a huge amount of courage to venture over there, and take care of business. Thanks for that!!! You know when your cooling fans come on your getting cooler air to your intake ram CentralCoaster. It's all kind of a science, but at the same time simple common sense. I am really appreciating the input on this matter from the members of CF. Thanks A Lot...
Last edited by Steel Breeze; May 25, 2006 at 01:48 AM.
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From: Richfield Utah
Promised a few pics. Keep the good idea's floating my way gotta make a judgement call. Wish I hadn't found a broken lower alternator mount,
I was just putting on my new top mount. I'm looking for one in the buy, and sell section of this forum. I guess whoever owned it before me did some quality work
as I just got through with putting $850.00 into each door without labor. I'm a perfectionist you have to understand. I have a little OCD, but I am taking some meds for it (Seriously) 
My 88, I'll get a few better ones of it...
My 74
My other 74. It has a solid oak dash & digital gauges. I'll get a pic of that one of these days...
FishLake
FishLake
Me at FishLake, and that concludes my little show. Party on!!!
I was just putting on my new top mount. I'm looking for one in the buy, and sell section of this forum. I guess whoever owned it before me did some quality work as I just got through with putting $850.00 into each door without labor. I'm a perfectionist you have to understand. I have a little OCD, but I am taking some meds for it (Seriously) My 88, I'll get a few better ones of it...
My 74
My other 74. It has a solid oak dash & digital gauges. I'll get a pic of that one of these days...
FishLake
FishLake
Me at FishLake, and that concludes my little show. Party on!!!
