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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
i refer to my earlier post....the C5 is the start of the ''world class" Vette,something the real hobbyist should have been proud of. in terms of everything,and i mean everything (styling subjective) its light years on the C4,as it should be. i can understand your point though,after having to look at the C4 for 14 long years
"World Class" Are you nuts ?? Here are some of the C5's world class attributes.

Leaking Batteries
Grounding Problems
Roof Noises
Hood Rattles
Stering Column Lock
Platinum Plugs with Pucks that fall off
Differential Leaks
Noisy Fuel pump or is it pumps? The C5 uses two pumps
Rocker failure
Oil Consupmtion/ Early Z06's had a recall on the piston rings

This isn't something I just made up, it is all listed on the C5 board as
"secrets of the C5"

The C4 has many issues as well but to call anything Chevrolet builds
World Class is funny.

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wayne lowry
"World Class" Are you nuts ?? Here are some of the C5's world class attributes.

Leaking Batteries
Grounding Problems
Roof Noises
Hood Rattles
Stering Column Lock
Platinum Plugs with Pucks that fall off
Differential Leaks
Noisy Fuel pump or is it pumps? The C5 uses two pumps
Rocker failure
Oil Consupmtion/ Early Z06's had a recall on the piston rings

This isn't something I just made up, it is all listed on the C5 board as
"secrets of the C5"

The C4 has many issues as well but to call anything Chevrolet builds
World Class is funny.

wayne.........the problems that you present with the C5 here, happens with other makes too. Ferraris and Toyotas have some of these issues on their cars also,doesnt mean that they aren't "world class" but i get your point though
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wayne lowry
"World Class" Are you nuts ?? Here are some of the C5's world class attributes.

Leaking Batteries
Grounding Problems
Roof Noises
Hood Rattles
Stering Column Lock
Platinum Plugs with Pucks that fall off
Differential Leaks
Noisy Fuel pump or is it pumps? The C5 uses two pumps
Rocker failure
Oil Consupmtion/ Early Z06's had a recall on the piston rings

This isn't something I just made up, it is all listed on the C5 board as
"secrets of the C5"

The C4 has many issues as well but to call anything Chevrolet builds
World Class is funny.
Haven't had any of those issues. Can you say the same?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Haven't had any of those issues. Can you say the same?
My car does not have any of those issues, I bought it brand new, only issue my car has is it goes sideways at any legal speed with street tires.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wayne lowry
My car does not have any of those issues, I bought it brand new, only issue my car has is it goes sideways at any legal speed with street tires.
Funny, I have that same problem.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Hello,
Is it me, or does it seem nuts that Vette guys are slamming other Vette guys and their cars? I bet that Ferarri forums dont have this type of thing.

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MDred85
Hello,
Is it me, or does it seem nuts that Vette guys are slamming other Vette guys and their cars? I bet that Ferarri forums dont have this type of thing.

MDred85
I know that the Taurus SHO forum that I frequent (used to own a SHO) doesn't bash each other's cars, because they are fairly busy bashing other makes of cars.

So, folks, get a grip.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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wonder if there are many people on a Ferrari forum....... the Ford Taurus forum, are you serious
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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i agree bashing is wrong, GM did screw up alot of things on the c4 and probably every other corvette gen too but we deal with it because we love the cars and i personally love all corvettes not just a c4 because i own one
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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To suggest the C5 started the "world class corvete" is definitely a little short sided. There are many corvettes of every generation that were and still are "world class". 1957, 1963, 1967, 1970 (LS6), 1994 Callaway (Le Mans)..........

C4: "In the three-year run of the Sport Car Club of America (SCCA) Escort Endurance Championship for showroom stock road racers, Corvettes won every race. Chevrolet teams and drivers dominated, winning every championship the series offered. Morrison-Cook swept the titles in 1985, and Kim Baker’s Bakeracing Corvettes won consecutive driver and team championships in 1986 and 1987.

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"In March 1990, a pair of Corvettes prepared by Morrison Engineering and Development - one a standard production model powered by an L98 small-block and the other a ZR-1 equipped with a DOHC LT5 - broke three world endurance records and established 12 international class standards on a 7.7-mile oval in Fort Stockton, Texas.

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In the Summer 2006 issue of Corvette Quarterly Ed Welburn states, "I am very interested in the fourth-generation convertible. In a few years, I can see them being hard to find and the price will be out of sight".

Corvettes of every generation including the C5 have been world class vehicles. In the end they're all corvettes.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 01:00 AM
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Ugly ? The cars don't look all that different. If you put an update kit on a C4 to the rest of the non enthusiast world it would then be a C5 if they even knew what the hell that was. The point is any car that with a bumper cover change and lights that looks so much like the other one
the average guy on the street wouldn't know which is which can't look all that different to start with. We are the only ones who even know what a C4/C5/C6 is. The rest of the world is clueless about these cars.
I like them both but to quote my father " I don't have a money tree"
but I do have a wife and two kids so I bought what was affordable to me at the time.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Maui
To suggest the C5 started the "world class corvete" is definitely a little short sided. There are many corvettes of every generation that were and still are "world class". 1957, 1963, 1967, 1970 (LS6), 1994 Callaway (Le Mans)..........

C4: "In the three-year run of the Sport Car Club of America (SCCA) Escort Endurance Championship for showroom stock road racers, Corvettes won every race. Chevrolet teams and drivers dominated, winning every championship the series offered. Morrison-Cook swept the titles in 1985, and Kim Baker’s Bakeracing Corvettes won consecutive driver and team championships in 1986 and 1987.

After witnessing this devastating display, SCCA officials concluded that the only competition for a Corvette was another Corvette. Thus the Corvette Challenge was born in 1988. Organized by John Powell and supported by Chevrolet, the Corvette Challenge pitted 50 drivers in identically prepared Corvettes racing for a $1 million purse. Bill Cooper won the inaugural Challenge championship in 1988 and Stu Hayner took the prize in 1989. In 1990, the SCCA World Challenge arrived, but the results didn’t change: Corvettes swept the Manufacturers’ Championship two straight years, and won three consecutive driver and team titles."

"In March 1990, a pair of Corvettes prepared by Morrison Engineering and Development - one a standard production model powered by an L98 small-block and the other a ZR-1 equipped with a DOHC LT5 - broke three world endurance records and established 12 international class standards on a 7.7-mile oval in Fort Stockton, Texas.

The ZR-1 set the mark for the most prestigious endurance record on the books: 24 hours at 175.885 mph. Not to be outdone, the L98 set the 6-hour record at 170.877 mph."

In the Summer 2006 issue of Corvette Quarterly Ed Welburn states, "I am very interested in the fourth-generation convertible. In a few years, I can see them being hard to find and the price will be out of sight".

Corvettes of every generation including the C5 have been world class vehicles. In the end they're all corvettes.

i feel ya and your right........but theres more to a Corvette than just speed and winning races. some of us have to live with them for daily transportation and thats what i meant by world class. compare some of the build quality and fit and finish to other makes and you know right away what i meant. the world was a lot smaller in the 50's and 60's anyway,thats why we are getting our asses handed to us,as far as automobile manufacturing goes.........
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JD'S WHITE 93
Ugly ? The cars don't look all that different. If you put an update kit on a C4 to the rest of the non enthusiast world it would then be a C5 if they even knew what the hell that was. The point is any car that with a bumper cover change and lights that looks so much like the other one
the average guy on the street wouldn't know which is which can't look all that different to start with. We are the only ones who even know what a C4/C5/C6 is. The rest of the world is clueless about these cars.
I like them both but to quote my father " I don't have a money tree"
but I do have a wife and two kids so I bought what was affordable to me at the time.
and you dont have to justify what you like and can afford,a C4 is
on my wish list
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
wonder if there are many people on a Ferrari forum....... the Ford Taurus forum, are you serious
Taurus SHO forum. Not just a run of the mill Taurus forum. Ya need to do some research, dude, on one of Ford's many bastards. Start at www.shoforum.com and then for head banging try www.fordbastards.org.

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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cbx1047cc
The C4 isn't even close to the C5, I don't even know where to begin. And as far as looks, the C4 has to be the worst looking Vette ever. Talk about the "ugly sister". Sorry, but you asked.

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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
i feel ya and your right........but theres more to a Corvette than just speed and winning races. some of us have to live with them for daily transportation and thats what i meant by world class. compare some of the build quality and fit and finish to other makes and you know right away what i meant. the world was a lot smaller in the 50's and 60's anyway,thats why we are getting our asses handed to us,as far as automobile manufacturing goes.........
I don't see any fit and finish issues with my C4. I have noticed the leather seating on the C6 is a lot thinner than the C4. I like the cockpit feel better on the C4 than the C5 however it is harder to get in to the C4. LS1 motor is a little better motor than the LT4 but not gubs better. Little things here and there that I could go ti for tat.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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I get the feeling that the ...
comments of others. such as...

the C5 is more sophisticated than the C4,

come from owners of Hondas who view
any non-Hondalike behavior of the
automatic transmission as undesireable.

..........
I am aware that my non-automatic 4+3
has a clutzy 2-3 shift, but there is more
to a Corvette than that
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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I have a 96 coupe and an 04 vert. I would choose the 04 for a trip but the 96 is more fun to drive. Corvettes are very cleverly engineered to offer the most advanced engineering and performance for the best price. No other manufacturer offers anything anywhere close in this price class. The Corvette is a recognized American Icon with over 50 years of heritage. The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) awarded the 2000 Corvette "best engineered car in the world" regardless of price. For the complainer a few spots above: I was in a parking lot recently and heard a car start up with a loud rattling-thrashing noise and I turned around to see what it was. It quieted down when the oil pressure came up and it was a Lexus.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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Wow! that took awhile to read. I just bought my 96 LT4 last night and now I'm watching my new brothers kickin the hell out of eachother! Anyway the guy I bought my vette from had about 7 different vettes forsale sale and here is what he told me. If want to buy a vette fro an investment and drive alittle he pointed at a 70 4spd vert with a 350/350 hp and he ponted at a 64 coupe 327. He said if want to have a vette but don't want to spend much and not worried about performance he ponted at a 79 vette. He said if your old like me and go on some long trips with the old lady and money isn't a issue he pointed at his 02 standard coupe auto, he said don't get me wrong the 02 is no slouch. Then he said if you like too rip around and have have a firmer hotrod sports car feel and good performance for the money he pointed at the 96 LT4 6 speed. Now not wanting to spend the money he wanted for the 02 vette or the money he wanted for the 70 and 64 ( I already have a 55 chevy as my collector)plus wanting something I can drive all over the place I didn't really pay that much attention to the 02. So I bought the 96. But I will tell you this the 96 felt more sporty or hotrod like to sit in versus the 02. Wow that is a lot of talking for a newbie here, I'll shutup LOL!
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Taurus SHO forum. Not just a run of the mill Taurus forum. Ya need to do some research, dude, on one of Ford's many bastards. Start at www.shoforum.com and then for head banging try www.fordbastards.org.
i have heard of the Ford Taurus SHO when it was being made. i dont care if it was the fastest car ever made, i dont care if it outruns my Vette, i wouldnt be caught dead in one,EVER !!!
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