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Drifting
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From: Lakeport CA
Ditto here on the Accel 300+. I've ran MSD on cars in the past w/ no issues but when I was shopping for the vette, the Accel has a build in adjustable rev. limiter... about the same price & I've been quite satisfied.
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From: Somewhere between here and there...
After a few months of being down for the count, the vette runs again. This problem whooped my azz
I spent in excess of 40 hours diagnosing and rewiring the entire ignition system to discover the MSD spark/retard box was the problem.
Took it for it's first drive since the fall. Registration renewed, state inspection and emmisions exemption and it is legal once again.
Anyhow, glad to be back
I spent in excess of 40 hours diagnosing and rewiring the entire ignition system to discover the MSD spark/retard box was the problem.
Took it for it's first drive since the fall. Registration renewed, state inspection and emmisions exemption and it is legal once again.
Anyhow, glad to be back
You going to Etown this weekend? I'm heading down Fri. I want to see it run again...Numedia was sooo long ago bud
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Initially, the problem was very intermittant. This sucked up 1/2 the time.
A few years ago, I decided that the retard box would make a nice addition. It allows a predetermined amount of timing to be pulled back when the NOS is armed.
To be honest, I forgot about this box, and there is no known way to test it.
I suspect that there will (hopefully) be no next time. I have the bad msd boxes screwed to my garage wall of shame.
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This year I plan to run the car quite a bit. Have a good time at e-town
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From: OBAMA IS HITLER
Pete, good news indeed 
I remember you mentioning your dislike for MSD last year (after 2 failures). I've seen problems with folks on this board. My HEI is completely stock, I purposefully decided to leave it that way.
I remember you mentioning your dislike for MSD last year (after 2 failures). I've seen problems with folks on this board. My HEI is completely stock, I purposefully decided to leave it that way.
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From: SCMR Rat Pack'r Charter Member..Great Bend KS
Aren't "crank" and "turn over" synonymous?
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From: Somewhere between here and there...
I can make it look very formal...
I'm glad you got the car back together again. Now go out and that the Vrod out for a ride!!! When will you be coming up this way? We can have a hot tub party cookout. I'm taking the Vette up to Ed's this weekend he already had his Harley out and would like to catch up with you and check out yours....message delivered!
I'm so happy you got the Vette back on the road...btw guess where I'm going .... W/C want me to bring you some back??
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Le Mans Master
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From: Santa Teresa New Mexico
after replacing 2 MSD 6a boxes and 3 blaster 2 coils on my 94 Impala SS (all under warantee because they didnt last more than 30 days) I know to check the MSD if the car cranks and doesnt turn over. At least I was fortunate enough that I always left the stock ignition in the car so I could always just plug in the stocker when the MSD failed
For one thing they didn't exist........
Whats the point of using one at all? Anything that was sold state is suspect to failure. Always have been.
Electronics in a car isn't a boom its a bust. The fewer the better.
My way of looking at it is simple if it was a better way to go GM would've used it.
You could'nt give me any of that junk.
Generational gap and all.
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Pete,
Good to hear you found the issue. I wish I would have seen your thread conserning it. I had the same problem as you, spent countless hours trying to figure it out only to finally determine that my MSD Digital 6 was bad.
She fire right up after reconnecting the original ignition. See my original thread here...http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1411915&page=3
Eric
Good to hear you found the issue. I wish I would have seen your thread conserning it. I had the same problem as you, spent countless hours trying to figure it out only to finally determine that my MSD Digital 6 was bad.
She fire right up after reconnecting the original ignition. See my original thread here...http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...1411915&page=3
Eric
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That horrible want me to write a note??
I can make it look very formal...
I'm glad you got the car back together again. Now go out and that the Vrod out for a ride!!! When will you be coming up this way? We can have a hot tub party cookout. I'm taking the Vette up to Ed's this weekend he already had his Harley out and would like to catch up with you and check out yours....message delivered!
I can make it look very formal...
I'm glad you got the car back together again. Now go out and that the Vrod out for a ride!!! When will you be coming up this way? We can have a hot tub party cookout. I'm taking the Vette up to Ed's this weekend he already had his Harley out and would like to catch up with you and check out yours....message delivered!
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From: Scarborough ONTARIO
Pete i spoke to u since 2 days and u were busy with this damn thing i really feel happy for you, who knows i might get crazy and we both race at numidia on apr 7th, 10-4pm. Since u worked too hard to diagnose and solve this ignition problem, i wont whoop ur azz at track (just kiddin). Who da man "peter kane andrew". Now rip her oh at the track.
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Msd is a capacitive discharge, multi spart unit. The capacitors store the energy, and the msd box amps it up and fires the plugs multiple times in the lower rpm's. In the upper rpm's it drops to a single fire, but it produces a better hit.
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Does it fire the plugs multiple times in one cycle? The purpose of that is? Does it act like a two plug application? Is it for a better, (complete) burn of hydrocarbons at lower cyclinder pressures?
I'm guessing that its for a high performance engine?
Does it delay the HEI spark? A better hit would be a higher voltage or a spark of a higher amperage?
Why does it fail? Heat?
Are there any dyno stats to prove or disprove its advantages.
Hate to be so ignorant but I've only encountered one. And is was on a 68 Chevelle with a completely stock 327.
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Thanks for the description. How does the msd box amp it up, coils?
Does it fire the plugs multiple times in one cycle? The purpose of that is? Does it act like a two plug application? Is it for a better, (complete) burn of hydrocarbons at lower cyclinder pressures?
I'm guessing that its for a high performance engine?
Does it delay the HEI spark? A better hit would be a higher voltage or a spark of a higher amperage?
Why does it fail? Heat?
Are there any dyno stats to prove or disprove its advantages.
Hate to be so ignorant but I've only encountered one. And is was on a 68 Chevelle with a completely stock 327.
Does it fire the plugs multiple times in one cycle? The purpose of that is? Does it act like a two plug application? Is it for a better, (complete) burn of hydrocarbons at lower cyclinder pressures?
I'm guessing that its for a high performance engine?
Does it delay the HEI spark? A better hit would be a higher voltage or a spark of a higher amperage?
Why does it fail? Heat?
Are there any dyno stats to prove or disprove its advantages.
Hate to be so ignorant but I've only encountered one. And is was on a 68 Chevelle with a completely stock 327.
Excessive moisture, vibration or heat can help kill them. My units were mounted inside the car, and in my opinion(as well as the msd tech's), it was mounted in a best possible location.