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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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After a few months of being down for the count, the vette runs again. This problem whooped my azz
I spent in excess of 40 hours diagnosing and rewiring the entire ignition system to discover the MSD spark/retard box was the problem.
Took it for it's first drive since the fall. Registration renewed, state inspection and emmisions exemption and it is legal once again.
Anyhow, glad to be back
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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I just knew the word retard would have to come into play here somewhere.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Makes me wonder about MSD. What is it about MSD that makes them fail so often? All I hear at the track is this: "Does anyone have a spare MSD 7? We have a racer in need!"

I hear that at least once a day at the track.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
Makes me wonder about MSD. What is it about MSD that makes them fail so often? All I hear at the track is this: "Does anyone have a spare MSD 7? We have a racer in need!"

I hear that at least once a day at the track.
After having 3 ignition boxes fail(msd 6al's) and now this, I am officially done with msd. I am not uspet or bitter about it, but I have had enough.
I am sure they made a good product at one time, but I agree that their failure rates are too high.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Congrats, felt the same way after conquering my starting issues recently
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy T-Bone
I just knew the word retard would have to come into play here somewhere.
Good going, the both of you especially PeteK.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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I have always said:
I am not retarded, I an just a little slow
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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As quoted from Captain Ahab:

HE RISES!!!!

Good on ya!
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
Makes me wonder about MSD. What is it about MSD that makes them fail so often? All I hear at the track is this: "Does anyone have a spare MSD 7? We have a racer in need!"

I hear that at least once a day at the track.
Well, don't know about the new ones but the last car that I worked on,
(69) Chevelle the box was made by Seagate.
It had wires going everywhere and the car never did quite run right.

I always suspected that box.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Really Pete, Job well done. Troubleshooting is not my specialty. Then again , not too many things ARE my specialty.
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Originally Posted by Tommy T-Bone
Really Pete, Job well done. Troubleshooting is not my specialty. Then again , not too many things ARE my specialty.
Thanks Tommy,
Although I am the trans guy, I had quite a bit of electonics training. Both in High school, and later in life. I was installing alams, remote starters and every other gadget under the sun for quite a few years. There is nothing electric or electronic on a c4 that scares me, but this problem whooped me.
That is why the satisfaction is so high on this one.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Pete: Can you write up the problems you were having... I feel this info would be very useful for all out there with MSD 6AL's, me being one.. Mine seems to be working fine NOW, but from all i've been reading, there's no guarantee to how long it will last... The info would be much appreciated
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Makes me wonder about MSD. What is it about MSD that makes them fail so often? All I hear at the track is this: "Does anyone have a spare MSD 7? We have a racer in need!"

I hear that at least once a day at the track.
May Strand Driver isnt that what MSD stands for.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Impala Balko
May Strand Driver isnt that what MSD stands for.
I have never heard that one
I honestly did not want to sound like I was bashing MSD. I am not thrilled with them, but not angry either.
I am pleased that the last msd item that was in my car, is now out of the car.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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AAaaaahhhhhHHHH, What am I supposed to do now? Change it when it breaks for what replacement?


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there are other companies that make Ignition boxes... such as Jacobs Ignitions, Crane, and Accel
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Originally Posted by Pete K
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I spent in excess of 40 hours diagnosing and rewiring the entire ignition system to discover the MSD spark/retard box was the problem.
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I know things can be obvious after the fact but as far as the this particular troubleshooting process is concerned, if you had to do it over again, would there be anything you would have done differently to save some of that time?
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after replacing 2 MSD 6a boxes and 3 blaster 2 coils on my 94 Impala SS (all under warantee because they didnt last more than 30 days) I know to check the MSD if the car cranks and doesnt turn over. At least I was fortunate enough that I always left the stock ignition in the car so I could always just plug in the stocker when the MSD failed
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