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Dec 5, 2007 | 01:14 PM

#21

anesthes

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It's a 1983 corvette sold as a 1984. End of story. If it was built in 1983, it is an 1983. Even though the model is 1984. If you were born in 1960, did your mom tell people you were a 1961 model??

It's all marketing propaganda. GM wants to sell a new car, they build it in '07, and sell it as a 2008 or even 2009 model. In some states they go by the build date when they issue title/registration.

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Dec 5, 2007 | 01:23 PM

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IMOAO there are a lot of '83 Vettes. Any made before 09/83 are '83s even though GM called them '84s. The Vettes made in March '83 meet the federal requirements for '84 so they were called '84s.

Where do you come up with September 1983 as the cutoff? Any vehicle made January 1983 or later could be sold as a 1984 MY car.

Dec 5, 2007 | 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by anesthes

It's all marketing propaganda. GM wants to sell a new car, they build it in '07, and sell it as a 2008 or even 2009 model. In some states they go by the build date when they issue title/registration.

I don't think it's all marketing propaganda. The vehicle has to be certified by various gov't agencies based on standards for certain model years. The alternative would be really dumb. The idea that a C4 and C5 would both be called "1996" Corvettes because one was built in Feb 1996 and one was built in Dec 1996 would be quite confusing. As would the idea that two cars built hours apart on the same line to the same specs could be considered to be of different model years.

And no car built in '07 could be legally sold as a 2009 model year car in the US.

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Dec 5, 2007 | 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurora40

Where do you come up with September 1983 as the cutoff? Any vehicle made January 1983 or later could be sold as a 1984 MY car.

Thats when the new MY normally hit the show room floor.

Dec 5, 2007 | 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudomind

Lets see, how far back do we want to take this? was the first 53 actually produced in 52? My 03 Z was actually produced in November of 2002, is it an 02? Oh my head, it's a bustin' with all the figurin'

But for all practical purposes GM produced no Corvettes for the 1983 year

The first '53s were made in June of '53. The difference between an '83 and '84 is a VIN tag.

Dec 5, 2007 | 03:35 PM

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The alternative would be really dumb. The idea that a C4 and C5 would both be called "1996" Corvettes because one was built in Feb 1996 and one was built in Dec 1996 would be quite confusing.

GM did the same thing with the trucks. A 1/2 ton 87 and 1 ton 88 share the same body style/generation, yet a 1/2 ton 88 is different.

I know what your saying about emissions certification, and that is infact the year of the car. But if it's built in '83 its still an 83 car. Just an 84 model.

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And no car built in '07 could be legally sold as a 2009 model year car in the US.

Oh?

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Dec 5, 2007 | 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by anesthes

Oh?

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The earliest they could make a 2009 MY car would be Jan 2, 2008.

Dec 5, 2007 | 07:01 PM

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What i dont understand about all this is what did GM do. Build 47 cars and then say no lets stop production and wait another year and keep one and smash the rest of the 83s????

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Dec 5, 2007 | 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by anesthes

It's a 1983 corvette sold as a 1984. End of story. If it was built in 1983, it is an 1983. Even though the model is 1984. If you were born in 1960, did your mom tell people you were a 1961 model?

A wise man once said that it is best to sit quietly and appear unintelligent rather than open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

I think this best describes your statement.

Dec 5, 2007 | 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ps374

What i dont understand about all this is what did GM do. Build 47 cars and then say no lets stop production and wait another year and keep one and smash the rest of the 83s????

For everyone that does not fully understand everything about the 1983/1984 issue, I suggest that you get a copy of "Corvette From the Inside written by Dave McLlelan, the Corvette Chief Engineer from 1975 to 1992. He was the one behind the C4 and his stories are very enlightening. You should be able to get one at just about any larger bookstore or through their online ordering system. The ISBN number is 0-8376-0859-7 and it's published by Bentley Publishing.

You will find out all the facts regarding just why there was no production 1983 Corvette.

Dec 5, 2007 | 08:23 PM

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I think the guy listed it that way for one reason. To get it noticed. Looks like it worked.

Dec 5, 2007 | 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by All2kool

A wise man once said that it is best to sit quietly and appear unintelligent rather than open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

I think this best describes your statement.

Personal attacks are against the rules. Thread reported.

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Dec 5, 2007 | 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZR-71

Heck the VIN clearly shows it's an '84. Now the manufacture date can show 1983, as '84 Corvette sales began in March 1983.

Exactly.It was probaby builit in `83.

Dec 5, 2007 | 08:58 PM

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I think there is an '83 in the NCM. That's about it.

ive seen it only one

Dec 5, 2007 | 09:17 PM

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If its a 1983....the 10th digit in the #vin will be D if its a 1984 the 10th digit in the #vin will be E END OF DISCUSSION!!!! CASE CLOSED!!!! LOL

Dec 5, 2007 | 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonic85

That one for sale is clearly an '84. The wheels are a dead giveaway for one. Plus none of them were released for sale, all were crushed but 1.

I read of the few produced ALL but one were destroyed. GM kept that one and my understanding also is that it is in the NCM.

Dec 5, 2007 | 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jughead1

I read of the few produced ALL but one were destroyed. GM kept that one and my understanding also is that it is in the NCM.

Here's a picture of it that I took.

Dec 6, 2007 | 11:58 AM

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Personal attacks are against the rules. Thread reported.

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Hardly a personal attack. A personal attack would have included name calling or a crack against a family member, which my statement clearly did not include.
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Dec 6, 2007 | 01:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All2kool

A wise man once said that it is best to sit quietly and appear unintelligent rather than open ones mouth and remove all doubt.

I think this best describes your statement.

I've seen the lone 1983 C4 at the NCM numerous times. One more log to throw on the fire: It has a blue interior, not black as someone posted above. Everyone here should try to go to the NCM. A lot of interesting cars and facts in there.

Dec 6, 2007 | 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ps374

What i dont understand about all this is what did GM do. Build 47 cars and then say no lets stop production and wait another year and keep one and smash the rest of the 83s????

They didn't stop production, the cars were preproduction or validation units. All of them were to be destroyed but a few people at Bowling Green Assembly hid the car and moved it around as to not be noticed. The vin was on the destoy list but could never be located. The original wheels were lost for many years and were found about 6 years ago and reunited with the car. They are '83 prototype wheels. I believe the car was painted many times over the years. When the car was finally tracked down it was decided to put it back together and donate the car to the new NCM with the stipulation that it could never be driven on public streets. So we have the daring people at the plant to thank for the lone '83.

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