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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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So my 90 vette is acting up on me. Recently it started smoking out the exhaust and I mean SMOKING BAD. Its like I have thick white clouds coming out the exhaust.
I got under the car and looked at it and about halfway back under the car it seems to be coming from the exhaust. So now I think on top of the smoking I have a leak in the exhaust.
I was told the smoking could be bc of a head gasket??? anyone got any information on what this sounds like and how to fix it (and how much $ to do so)?
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White smoke coming from the exhaust means you are burning antifreeze in your cylinders. Look for a head gasket leak.
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White smoke coming from the exhaust means you are burning antifreeze in your cylinders. Look for a head gasket leak.
ok thats what was mentioned and would also explain why my car smells like its leaking antifreeze but when I check there is no fluids leaking
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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Pull the engine dip stick out and see what's on it. If it looks like coffee with cream in it, that's bad. That's water/antifreeze in your oil. If this is the case then it could be a number of things that's causing the antifreeze getting into the oil. Water could be leaking under the intake manifold gaskets and drawn into the cylinders causing the white smoke. Could be a head gasket doing the same thing as mention above.
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Is there some sort of Transmission valve or something of the like. I am really reaching here but I had a Chevelle once that, out of nowhere, it smoking a thick white cloud of smoke and was a transmission valve/plug of some sort.
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Good chance the head gaskets are gone, L98s are notorious for this.
Are they originals?

If youre losing coolant out the exhuast dont drive it, youll fry the bearings on the motor.
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Originally Posted by sayers316
So my 90 vette is acting up on me. Recently it started smoking out the exhaust and I mean SMOKING BAD. Its like I have thick white clouds coming out the exhaust.
I got under the car and looked at it and about halfway back under the car it seems to be coming from the exhaust. So now I think on top of the smoking I have a leak in the exhaust.
I was told the smoking could be bc of a head gasket??? anyone got any information on what this sounds like and how to fix it (and how much $ to do so)?
Let us know what you find please.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Let us know what you find please.
Ok, well I am towing it to where I can work on it after work today (i live in an apt and kinda hard to work there). Hadn't heard bout the transmission thing, Ill check into that. I'm gonna be looking at the headgaskets first. Hypothetically speaking thats what it is, how much $$$ and trouble am I looking at to fix it myself?

Got a guy comin to look at it this weekend, so I gotta get it fixed ASAP
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Ok, well I am towing it to where I can work on it after work today (i live in an apt and kinda hard to work there). Hadn't heard bout the transmission thing, Ill check into that. I'm gonna be looking at the headgaskets first. Hypothetically speaking thats what it is, how much $$$ and trouble am I looking at to fix it myself?

Got a guy comin to look at it this weekend, so I gotta get it fixed ASAP
I have never had to repair one so I'm not sure of the expense. If you do it yourself it would just be the cost of a gasket set. As far as trouble? I am not a mechanic so it would be a pain for me to tackle it. As an example though my mech told me to repair my water pump leak (which is very small) it would be in the neighborhood of $600.00 and about the same to fix my intake oil leak (which again is very minimal as of now, and he said he wouldn;t repair that until it got worse).

Hopefully someone with more experience will come in. It probably is the head gasket as others have stated. Have you had a chance to check for water on your dipstick?

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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
I have never had to repair one so I'm not sure of the expense. If you do it yourself it would just be the cost of a gasket set. As far as trouble? I am not a mechanic so it would be a pain for me to tackle it. As an example though my mech told me to repair my water pump leak (which is very small) it would be in the neighborhood of $600.00 and about the same to fix my intake oil leak (which again is very minimal as of now, and he said he wouldn;t repair that until it got worse).

Hopefully someone with more experience will come in. It probably is the head gasket as others have stated. Have you had a chance to check for water on your dipstick?
I checked it two days ago when I parked it and it seemed normal, didnt seem milky or anything like that either, but I may just not have noticed it..ok so its pretty much narrowed down that its about a 95% chance its the head gasket, so what should I do about the leak in the exhaust, ive never even noticed it there until it started smoking, chances are its been there, just wasn't noticable since it didnt smoke

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I checked it two days ago when I parked it and it seemed normal, didnt seem milky or anything like that either, but I may just not have noticed it..ok so its pretty much narrowed down that its about a 95% chance its the head gasket, so what should I do about the leak in the exhaust, ive never even noticed it there until it started smoking, chances are its been there, just wasn't noticable since it didnt smoke
Where's the leak located in the exhaust?
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Originally Posted by RetiredSFC 97
Where's the leak located in the exhaust?
Its practically right under the back of the seats. No POSITIVE yet, as I have had no chance to actually get the car in the air (doint that tonight).
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Its practically right under the back of the seats. No POSITIVE yet, as I have had no chance to actually get the car in the air (doint that tonight).
Try and find out exactly where it is leaking and let me know. I recently had to replace my catback and that was , with mufflers, around 300.00. And was simple to replace. The front is a little more complicated but still not that bad.

if you are going to sell it, I would just deduct the exhaust from the price of the car. Or if you have it priced low already I would tell them that is considering the exhaust, and go from there.

The head gasket is your first problem though, obviously. Good luck with it and I wish you the best. Maybe someone is telling you not to sell it. Here is a link to where I bought my catback

http://www.corvettecentralexhaust.com/
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Originally Posted by sayers316
.... how much $$$ and trouble am I looking at to fix it myself?

Got a guy comin to look at it this weekend, so I gotta get it fixed ASAP
I have replaced the intake manifold and installed long tube headers on my 86'. I don't know how much more work it is to pull the heads, once the intake manifold is off. I made photo docs of both jobs. I was new to both jobs when I did this. You can see the photo docs here, to get an idea of what is involved:

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HTH!
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To replace a set of head gaskets your looking at under $300.00 in parts, gaskets sets, new coolant, oli & fiter, of coarse this is less any head work that might need to be done. How many miles on motor?? The labor time is around 12 hours or so, maybe a little longer if you have never done them before. To have a shop do it around $1200.00 or so depending on where you live. I wouldn't worry about exhaust till you get the heads done that leak might not be visible once the water is taken care of. Good Luck

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To replace a set of head gaskets your looking at under $300.00 in parts, gaskets sets, new coolant, oli & fiter, of coarse this is less any head work that might need to be done. How many miles on motor?? The labor time is around 12 hours or so, maybe a little longer if you have never done them before. To have a shop do it around $1200.00 or so depending on where you live. I wouldn't worry about exhaust till you get the heads done that leak might not be visible once the water is taken care of. Good Luck
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If you want to double check, I think most radiator shops have a gadget that tests whether they're seeing exhaust gas in the coolant - depending on where the leakage is usually you'll get some (i.e. sucks in coolant though the leak on intake stroke, pushes out exhaust on power stroke. Chevy 235 in 6's used to be bad for that, although mostly they would crack the head rather than having a gasket leak...

If there was any significant leakage I'd think you'd see a temp rise as well...

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temp did rise a little bit, with that said.
Got home, checked it out, no water in the oil on the dipstick or anything but when I took the cap off where you put the oil in, it WAS milky. Came to the conclusion its a headgasket, picked up the parts for it (only cost me $82) Should be fixed this weekend!!!

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If you find a blown headgasket, that may just be a symptom, not the real problem. The real problem could be a warped head. You will need to check the head when it is off to see if it is flat. If not, it will need to go to a machine shop to be trued up.
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Originally Posted by sayers316
temp did rise a little bit, with that said.
Got home, checked it out, no water in the oil on the dipstick or anything but when I took the cap off where you put the oil in, it WAS milky. Came to the conclusion its a headgasket, picked up the parts for it (only cost me $82) Should be fixed this weekend!!!

Thanks for the help from everyone
$82.00 seems low for the parts but good for you if that is all you spent. You have water in your oil if the cap looked like that change it. also change coolant you could have oil in that as well.
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