It is about time to change my oil and I have heard some strong testimonies on this product. It's quite a leap of faith to pour in purple goo as opposed to the same oil I have been using for 10 years.

My car as an oil burning problem, though it is mostly solved with valvoline oil additive, should I make the switch?

 

I like an only use Mobil 1...my .02 worth

 

Mobile1 for me too.

 

I sometimes use Royal Purple Oil (I prefer it over Mobil 1), but it isn't always convient to get. I don't think it will help your oil burning problem, I have read that synthetic oil has a tendacy to leak more because the molecule are smaller and uniform compare to "dino" oil. So, I supose it could make your oil burning problem worse (I am only theorizing from the oil leaking)

 

I use that ,also!!!! [IMG][/IMG] :D

 

I use Royal Purple. My mechanic is a distributor and drives the Royal Purple NHRA Alcohol Dragster. I had researched and was between either Amsoil or Royal Purple. He showed me the government scar tests, and RP was a little better than Amsoil. But, RP and Amsoil had beat out all the other synthetics by far!

 

How did Mobil 1 fare in your research? That's all I use so far. I would need some pretty compelling proof to switch, but I'm always open to new ideas.

 

A guy on the LS1.com forum posted a while back, about the oil consumption problems that have plauged the LS1s, and he did a little test. The engine had always used mobile 1 oil, and he was burning about a qt every 1000 miles. Upon switching to royal purple, oil consumption basically went down to zero. The post was months ago, so I don't have a link. But the point is, the RP may actually help with your oil consumption problem, but it all depends on where the oil is leaking out of your car.

 

Mobile 1 was the worst of all the Synthetics. It was still better than conventional. But it didn't stack up to Red Line, Amsoil, or Royal Purple. They all had at least 25% LESS scarring on the bearings than Mobile 1

Go to Amsoil's website and they have the government comparisons to all the others (except to Royal Purple cause it was the only one who beat them).

Here is a link to some comparisons. Its on an Amsoil site, so there is no information about Royal Purple. I cannot find any comparisons from Amsoil to Royal Purple online...but I will keep looking.
http://www.bestsyntheticoil.com/amsoil/index.shtml

Here is a link to an informative site about Royal Purple: http://www.synerlec.com/technical.html

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[Modified by Eric 96, 1:02 PM 3/13/2002]

 

I've seen what Royal Purple can do in an LS-1 and my next oil change will be with it... fantastic oil from what I've seen.

 

They also ingnored Redline synthetics.

 

HEy all,
I am running regular oil in my car. Vavoline to be exact. I have a little blue smoke on startup, and i think its the valve guide seals. Should i switch to this purple oil?

 

Neither Redline or Mobil, helped my valve seals.

 

I don't think any of those are "government" tests. I never even heard of the "4 ball" test until it appeared on the Amsoil sight. Believe this is an Amsoil invented test, and also have no idea what it means, other than Amsoil seems to do will with it. That may mean more high pressure solids like Redline that really are not an indication of the wear properties of the oil under normal conditions.

I don't believe anything provided by vendors. If their was a government test, I would love (I would PAY) to see the results. I really doubt it exists.

And as I said in the other thread, you folks know that the street oil by RP is a synthetic blend, not a pure synthetic. This does not mean anything good or bad, but it's not clear on their websight or advertising and some like to know this.

See if the bottle says that it meets GM4718M, that at least is an indication that it has passed API and some extended GM required testing.

I have noting against RP, Amsoil, Redline (except that they don't test their oil to API). I am not a Mobil 1 Zombie (sort of like a Zaino Zombie). I do dislike lubrication marketing, intensely.

Royal Purple should say in huge print: This engine oil is a blend of synthetic and mineral oils.

Redline should say in huge print: This engine oil has not been tested to meet API or GM4718M standards.

Amsoil should say in huge print: This oil which is probably very very good, is marketed by pressured dealers operating under an escalating marketing / sales scheme and if you use this oil you will be bothered to get sucked into this machine.

And just to be fair,

Mobil 1 should say: This oil formulation has been changed significantly in the last few years. It contains some mixture, only known to us and a certain percentage of mineral oil that is a secret. This is not the Mobil 1 of 5 years ago.

Castrol Syntec should say: This oil is the result of hydrocracked mineral oil and no orginally produced synthetic base oils have been used in the production of this product which should cost a lot less than products that do actually use synthetic base stocks, however it costs the same.

Wow, this got long, sorry.

Pete

 

Damn Pete...I think I am selling my car now and taking the bus!
I have seen the scar tests in other lubricants websites, and have read about government scar test in Consumer Reports. Its not a "made up" test. It is way to measure the scarring on a bearing under extreme circumstances.

 

I wanted to post this quote from a site: "In 1972 AMSOIL developed the first synthetic motor oil in the world to meet American Petroleum Institute service requirements. Currently, the AMSOIL product line includes the finest quality synthetic motor oils, synthetic diesel oils, gear lubes, synthetic greases, industrial lubricants, oil filters, air filters and automotive performance products". http://hkenterprises.net/
I am not sure where Pete is getting his info from. It looks to me like Amsoil has been meeting API standards or 30 years now.

 

Reread his post, he said Redline hasn't been tested for API standards. I think he unusure if Amsoil was API tested.


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Yeah, you are probably right. But I wanted to post that anyway. I don't even use Amsoil, I use Royal Purple. But, I believe that these two products are the best we can use. I also believe that Mobile One, although better than conventional, doesn't stack up to other synthetics. I think that if Royal Purple, and Amsoil was all hype based on lies in advertising, there would be alot of other comments in Message Boards across the internet and in Consumer reporting magazines telling us so. I just don't see it. What I do see are the testimonials from the people who do use them and do see a difference in their products.


[Modified by Eric 96, 8:37 AM 3/15/2002]

 

Seems to me most Amsoil gas engine oils have been tested to meet API. Redline has not tested to meet API standards. I don't know about Royal Purple, guess I could look it up.

If you can find any government testing of engine oils, I would love to see the link. Don't think you will find it. I would also like to see a link to any other oil manufacturers (other than Amsoil) that provides "4 ball" testing data.

Pete

[edit] Also never said anything against RP. I don't have any idea. But I do know that the street oil is a blend, not pure synth. They don't tend to make this clear, and some people care to know this.


[Modified by PeteL, 9:53 AM 3/15/2002]

 

Here we go again “Oil Wars”. Gang, you got to understand PeteL and RickyRacer007. They think their Einstein’s of the oil industry, those damm Petrol Pimp Jock Heads. They sit around a bonfire with a can of Mobil-1 each day having their daily worshiping services smoking their crack pipe. One think he’s a chemist from working at a oil firm which suppose to be the biggest west of the Mississippi, we all wonder sometimes wonder where he got his chemist degree? And the other follows and agreeing with everything the other says. No such creditably, it’s the cult thing. Believe what you feel is right, don’t let the Petrol Pimp Jock Heads KKK members dictate what you use. If you think it’s a descent product then use it. But when you post it on here these Petrol Pimp Jock Heads will always have negative things to say. Honestly guys, has anyone experienced any failure using Red Line oil, if so we would like to hear about it? Is every piece of meat all USDA certified checked a confirmed?