Will a DCI Renegade crossfire manifold or oem crossfire manifolds for that fact fit on 85 and up blocks?

 

Gen. 1 small block goes to 91. Why would you want to put that system on a later vette than 84?

 

i figured someone would ask.. i just love the way crossfires look. Plus wouldnt using the DCI manifold be much better than a stock 85 to 91 oem one?

 

Not nessessarly. You dont like the looks of the TPI?

A forum member here has his own crossfire forum. Maybe check his site.

 

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Let me guess. You like the look of the air cleaner assembly? Someone around here had a flame job on theirs.

 

haha i found the crossfire air cleaner with flames on it, No i dont want it for the aircleaner lol I like the looks of crossrams, if I put one on a c4
I would put on two small round air cleaners so you could actually see the renegade and throttle bodies.


? If the heads were the same until 91 and the intake manifold bolt pattern is the same why wouldnt a renagade fit on 85-90 c4s?

whats with the "FYI, there are no 83 Corvettes"?

 

You must live where you dont have smog testing.

Why not put a dual quad tunnelram with some holleys on it? The 84 takes a different hood than the 85 to 91's. 84 has a year specific hood for the crossfire. To make a later one work correctly you would need the 84 hood in your conversion. Im not familiar with 84's specificly maybe some one with more knowlage about the 84 hood and crossfire set up can tell you.

Have you thought about something like this?

 

I said Gen 1 small block thru 91'. 84, 85 heads are cast iron. Somewhere around 86 they went aluminum.

 

The 84 hood is different in that it ducts fresh air from in front of the radiator area (kind of) to the sides of the air cleaner. I say "kind of" because the opening in the hood mates up to a closed cover - you'd have to cut a hole in that cover to actually get much air flow in there.

I'm not sure that the early hood would be a requirement of a swap on a later car BUT - this is one of those things where if you like the crossram setup, you should just buy an 84. I can't see it being cost-effective to convert a TPI car to CFI. That being said, I'm sure there will be other options for you later down the road if you get a TPI car and want the crossram type intake. I wouldn't expect anything for a year or more though.

As pointed out above, you don't have a Vette yet. I was in the same boat till 3 months ago. I looked for quite a while and settled on the one I have now for $1,900. Keep your eyes peeled and you can get a very good deal.

I don't want or expect the 84 to be the fastest thing around, I just want it to be enjoyable and tractable for every day use. 500hp is a blast at first, but after a while it's not so fun to live with unless it's a toy. For me, I only have 1 car so it needs to be smooth and flexible but still be fun. The 84 does that just fine although in stock form it is a little lacking in power. I just got my Renegade and that will be a huge improvement. I may stop there, or I may do a small cam change, we'll see how it goes.

Anyways, just some thoughts for you. Check my site for some more info if you feel like it.

 

It's a good site!!

 

As for the hood, looking at my '85, the ducting is there, they left it for stiffening I guess just didnt cut the holes. So many parts are scarce for our cars and Xfire stuff even more so.

I love the way the tpi set up looks myself even if it aint a power maker.

Good advice tho, if ya like the Xfire setup just buy an '84

 

Thanks alot for the advice lots of good info. I really am leaning towards a 89 or newer. The most important thing about the C4 I plan on buying is that it is a ZF. Im looking in the $5000-$6500 range. I found a couple but it seems almost impossible to find a stick in that price range within 150 miles or so. The crossram setup is just something ive been curious about. I can find a 84 or around there pretty easy but Im not going to get a automatic. Id consider a swap but id rather it be an original stick car.

 

No.. But I have thought of using the Renegade for something like this..

 

I like that!

Mike

 

Can't tell for sure if that's the Offy or the Edelbrock SY-1 (Smokey Ram). The Offy is stail available new and is in stock at Summit - but I'd only go that way if you want to go carbs.

I'd say decide on what you really want and then go from there. The ZF is a cool trans, but has noise issues that were factory cured by using a $1,000 "dual mass" flywheel. It basically has a spring loaded friction face and helps to quiet trans noise at idle.

All the 84-91 cars are basically the same. 84-87 suspension is a little different. 85 & up gets the TPI and mid 86 I think is when the aluminum heads started on it. The dash & interior changed in 90. Overall, the looks and feel of the cars is still pretty much equal.

If you like the crossram idea, 84 is the only year. Get one with the 4+3 trans and then do a swap to an aftermarket 6 speed. They're stronger and the trans will be brand new. If you're set on the ZF, they you're sticking with the TPI engine or doing some sort of engine swap - either way (trans swap, engine swap) it's not cheap.

I'd say choose one with the basic equipment you want and then drive it for a while. Remember that these were $30K+ cars when new and more than what most people made in a year at the time. They're still highly competent cars and unless you're gonna be Joe Racer all the time, the 6 speed swap just isn't worth the money - IMHO. The 5.7 makes too much torque and is too flexible to really NEED the 6 speed. Most of the LT-1 guys go to 4.10's with the 6 speed just to make 6th worth using - it's a .5 overdrive and just KILLS the RPM's. Once you go to the 4.10's you have traction problems in at least 1st gear, and some have problems in 2nd too because it's too much torque multiplication.

I'd say do some serious homework before you sink a bunch of $$ into something that your'e then unhappy with because your expectations weren't reasonable. Fair warning from someone who's made that mistake himself!

 

The Renegade will fit 82 and 84 corvette, 82 and 83 camaro and firebird CFI motor OR any Gen1 motor that would like to run it. If you want to run a CFI setup, you just need the ECM and sensors to control it. You can also run a vortec head with the Renegade, but will have to mod the head a little, but very doable.

 

and yes I posted that. This is the C4 forum if I posted is for a C4. The 82 is a C3 and the Camaro CFI was a 305 CID (82-84). You are correct, it fits those vehicles (its all in wikipedia and the renegade website)

This guy did one 6 months ago.

If everytime we speak about LT engines and link it to Camaro, TA, Firebirds, Impalas, Caprice, Buicks and Cadillacs, would that matter?
Who knows about the L99?

The Miura guy sent me a PM calling me names etc etc...I thought I killed somebody.

 

The "Miura" guy was just telling you that they will also fit up to 91 from what i understand. The only change to the head before than was in 1987 with the two center bolts for the intake and that didnt include corvette. I read that in 1991 the heads were different. Im sure there are other things you have to change like sensors and such but they should directly bolt on up to 90 right?

 

When you buy your vette, and install the renegade mainifold, make sure and keep us up dated with your progress with pics.

Post it up here and might want to post it up in OT. They like C4 conversions over there I have been told.

Good luck!

Mike

 

He has been saving money for a year.

I wonder what's his DD? Post pictures of your DD

For a non-Corvette owner he sure knows a lot.