Console Carpet Installation Tips
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Racer
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From: Huntsvegas AL
Console Carpet Installation Tips
Guys,
Replacing the carpet in my 91 Coupe. Got the old console carpet pieces off - they came off easily with careful application of a heat gun. However, the factory caulk-like glue stayed behind on the console trim piece.
Heres my question: Best to remove all of the factory glue? To answer my own question, I think I will have to remove all the glue, seems to me the beads of the factory glue would prevent the new carpet from laying flat on the piece (which contact cements needs).
Also have a suggestion to melt some glue sticks, but same question, can I just put new glue over the old?
Lastly, does anyone know, can the old factory glue be re-activated? I mean its still sticky, if I heat it up with my heat gun, would I get a good bond with the new carpet?
Replacing the carpet in my 91 Coupe. Got the old console carpet pieces off - they came off easily with careful application of a heat gun. However, the factory caulk-like glue stayed behind on the console trim piece.
Heres my question: Best to remove all of the factory glue? To answer my own question, I think I will have to remove all the glue, seems to me the beads of the factory glue would prevent the new carpet from laying flat on the piece (which contact cements needs).
Also have a suggestion to melt some glue sticks, but same question, can I just put new glue over the old?
Lastly, does anyone know, can the old factory glue be re-activated? I mean its still sticky, if I heat it up with my heat gun, would I get a good bond with the new carpet?
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Carpet glue
I'm somewhat in the same boat... ah, coupe, redoing the entire carpet in my LT4.
My 2 cents: remove all the factory glue, don't believe you can "reactivate" it. It's old, dirty, probably wouldn't hold well, imo. You can easily replace it however: finally found real auto carpet adhesive, Mid America Motorworks, green stuff that never quite sets hard, sticky but not gooey if that makes any sense, and with patience and persistence you can peel it off. Seems nearly identical to the factory blobs I'm always finding.
3 cents: I'll recommend staying clear of glue sticks, as these are heat activated... and reactivated. Had an experience in the past where I did a fix-it project involving a glue stick, but on a hot day in a hot car, it came undone. Not a fun clean up.
fwiw: am installing heat/sound foil barrier and new foil backed carpet pad as I go, using spray adhesive here and there, hi-temp aluminum tape on seams. But the new carpet needs more grip or sticking power, and the new green stuff is working out well.
Hope this helps
My 2 cents: remove all the factory glue, don't believe you can "reactivate" it. It's old, dirty, probably wouldn't hold well, imo. You can easily replace it however: finally found real auto carpet adhesive, Mid America Motorworks, green stuff that never quite sets hard, sticky but not gooey if that makes any sense, and with patience and persistence you can peel it off. Seems nearly identical to the factory blobs I'm always finding.
3 cents: I'll recommend staying clear of glue sticks, as these are heat activated... and reactivated. Had an experience in the past where I did a fix-it project involving a glue stick, but on a hot day in a hot car, it came undone. Not a fun clean up.
fwiw: am installing heat/sound foil barrier and new foil backed carpet pad as I go, using spray adhesive here and there, hi-temp aluminum tape on seams. But the new carpet needs more grip or sticking power, and the new green stuff is working out well.
Hope this helps
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on my 1990 I removed all the old glue then melted a bunch hot glue gun sticks in a pan then spread in small areas at a time with a putty knife and layed the carpet. I also did this on the door sills, dash, door panels and it will not release.
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On mine (maybe yours too), the mounting holes are under the carpet. So, I mounted the trim piece w/o the carpet attached. Then, I used a hotglue gun to bead the perimeter. That allowed me to get good adhesion around the edges.
I finished by using newspaper to "mask off" the cockpit. I shot 3M High Strength contact cement on both sides. (Kinda of a trick with the edges attached, but you can figure out where to add more hotglue vs where to spray.
After holding the carpet out for a few minutes, I smoothed it down to adhere. A box knife along the botton helped to create a perfect transition into the pan carpet.
I left part of the old glue in place. The 3M stuff is MUCH thinner. I figured if the old stuff didn't show before, it won't show now. Can't say is does either.
Oh yeah...I put a spot of hotglue under the edges of the firewall end and bottom to make sure feet didn't accidentally pull up the carpet.
I finished by using newspaper to "mask off" the cockpit. I shot 3M High Strength contact cement on both sides. (Kinda of a trick with the edges attached, but you can figure out where to add more hotglue vs where to spray.
After holding the carpet out for a few minutes, I smoothed it down to adhere. A box knife along the botton helped to create a perfect transition into the pan carpet.
I left part of the old glue in place. The 3M stuff is MUCH thinner. I figured if the old stuff didn't show before, it won't show now. Can't say is does either.
Oh yeah...I put a spot of hotglue under the edges of the firewall end and bottom to make sure feet didn't accidentally pull up the carpet.
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Racer
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From: Huntsvegas AL
Ive been searching the forum all night, didnt I read somewhere that the factory glue is pressure activated? In other words, if I were to put my new carpet on the old glue and then clamp it or place heavy objects (books) on the piece, the glue will re-attach?
Its still sticky. Maybe this is wishful thinking........I really dont want to remove the old stuff if I dont have to, but I cant see how new glue (esp contact cement type glue ) would work very well with the thick beads still in place. Maybe I'll get the carpet cement from Mid-America.
Its still sticky. Maybe this is wishful thinking........I really dont want to remove the old stuff if I dont have to, but I cant see how new glue (esp contact cement type glue ) would work very well with the thick beads still in place. Maybe I'll get the carpet cement from Mid-America.
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Ive been searching the forum all night, didnt I read somewhere that the factory glue is pressure activated? In other words, if I were to put my new carpet on the old glue and then clamp it or place heavy objects (books) on the piece, the glue will re-attach?
Its still sticky. Maybe this is wishful thinking........I really dont want to remove the old stuff if I dont have to, but I cant see how new glue (esp contact cement type glue ) would work very well with the thick beads still in place. Maybe I'll get the carpet cement from Mid-America.
Its still sticky. Maybe this is wishful thinking........I really dont want to remove the old stuff if I dont have to, but I cant see how new glue (esp contact cement type glue ) would work very well with the thick beads still in place. Maybe I'll get the carpet cement from Mid-America.
then like the other member said use a hot glue gun and bond the seam edges then just work your way with the rest of the carpet and it will never release.
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From: Huntsvegas AL
Running Update
Heres an update:
I was able to get all of the original GM glue (i.e. gorillia snot) off with various adhesive removers and heat gun (the 95 deg heat probably helped the most). Probably took it too far, but I went ahead and completely removed all of it. I then lightly sanded the console pieces for prep for installation.
For the console carpet installation, I wound up using glue from Mid America Motorworks. Basically a contact cement, and its green. supposed to hold up well in the heat. We'll see. The spray on stuff has mixed reviews from what I can tell. The MAM glue has a consistency similar to contact cement, as in it does have some body to it, but nothing like the orig GM glue.
Have to say, Im not very good with re-upholstery.
No glaring goofs, but certainly not as good as factory. Maybe the carpet will "set in" after awhile.
Pics to follow
I was able to get all of the original GM glue (i.e. gorillia snot) off with various adhesive removers and heat gun (the 95 deg heat probably helped the most). Probably took it too far, but I went ahead and completely removed all of it. I then lightly sanded the console pieces for prep for installation.
For the console carpet installation, I wound up using glue from Mid America Motorworks. Basically a contact cement, and its green. supposed to hold up well in the heat. We'll see. The spray on stuff has mixed reviews from what I can tell. The MAM glue has a consistency similar to contact cement, as in it does have some body to it, but nothing like the orig GM glue.
Have to say, Im not very good with re-upholstery.
No glaring goofs, but certainly not as good as factory. Maybe the carpet will "set in" after awhile. Pics to follow
