GM CEO want gas tax
06-15-2011, 01:15 PM
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I can drive for 10 hours, at 80 mph and be half way across my state. Here's the thing. If you want to drive a battery powered go cart, and pay 40 thousand dollars to do it, that should be your right. I have nothing but respect for those people who chose to put their money where their mouth is. But, it shouldn't be your right to tell me I have to do the same thing, AND I have to pony up my tax money to give you your down payment to do it. A huge portion of the Volts sold are going to the current administration's government. Paid for by taxpayer dollars. I wouldn't force you to drive a gas guzzler. Ever. I'm not complacent. I think we need to allow private enterprise to supply the demands of people who want to do things their way. You want to travel by hot air balloon, powered by a battery, you should have the right to pay for what you want. If no one else wants it, it will probably be expensive. Kind of like Corvettes. New Corvettes are coming up with all kinds of new technology to help mankind, but the government isn't giving me thousands of dollars to go buy one. I wouldn't want it to. If you just want to get there and spend your money, then you should be able to do it as you please. I roughnecked in the oil patch for years. Our country has plenty of oil and natural gas, not to mention coal, to provide energy for many years to come. We have an administration that has set its goal to make energy prices soar in order to promote their agenda. Now, if those that agreed with them ponied up the money for it, I would respect that. But, when they demand that I pay for what I believe is bullpucky, I disagree. It is great country we live in, isn't it. You can say I'm complacent, and I can say you are a market socialist. 
, thanks for that post - puts things in perspective and makes me think. I was getting a bit wound up. It would be great to only pay taxes on things that I would benefit from, but I don't see how that can be the case. I've been lucky as hell to have the life that I have, and for all this country has done for me, I like to see it continue advancing. If that means my taxes go to ethanol or hybrid vehicle incentives or NASA or defense or social security (something I don't count on seeing 40 years from now when I can use it), so that in 40 years I hand the next generations a country that's leading the world, then I'm for it.How much oil do you think we have in our country and how long do you think it will last? From what I can find, we've proven about 21 billion barrels are available in our country, and we may have up to 135 billion. We use 21 million a day. That's only 17.5 years that we can make it on what we might have. Do you disagree that this should be addressed, and to do that by pushing progress in alternative areas? As for the government buying up Volts for the fleet, they're only buying about 100, and the fleet totals hundreds of thousands of cars. They have accounted for significant percentages of the other Ford and Chevy hybrids sold recently, too, and the hybrids were only about 10% of what they bought in 2009 and 2010.
The cost between light 4 cylinders and Hybrids (lets be honest here, the Volt is a glorified Hybrid) will probably never really change. Lets not forget as the so called "electric" cars get better, the better ones WILL be more expensive. I can see it now. "Hey look the VOLT 2, it goes 60 miles now! Wow it's only $55,000! But wait you can upgrade to the New 100 mile Volt 3 for only $75,000!." It might not be to that extreme, but lets be realistic. They are not really selling you a "more practical" car, only the illusion that it is more practical.
06-15-2011, 03:31 PM
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Here's a little more on the subject;
First, from the New York Times:
"Estimate Places Natural Gas Reserves 35% Higher
Thanks to new drilling technologies that are unlocking substantial amounts of natural gas from shale rocks, the nation’s estimated gas reserves have surged by 35 percent, according to a study due for release on Thursday.
Estimated natural gas reserves rose to 2,074 trillion cubic feet in 2008. . ."
This is said to be a 100 year supply.
Canada, a trusted, reliable trading partner has the second largest oil reserves in the world.
Then there's this;
“The technical groundwork may be in place for a fundamental shift in oil shale economics,” the Rand Corporation recently declared. “Advances in thermally conductive in-situ conversion may enable shale-derived oil to be competitive with crude oil at prices below $40 per barrel. If this becomes the case, oil shale development may soon occupy a very prominent position in the national energy agenda.”
Estimated U.S. oil shale reserves total an astonishing 1.5 trillion barrels of oil – or more than five times the
stated reserves of Saudi Arabia.
Read more: Oil Shale Reserves http://dailyreckoning.com/oil-shale-...#ixzz1PNFiqkev
A good read for those so inclined.
It all boils down to politics. Our current administration doesn't want the public to be able to use the oil we have, much less the oil we could get in the future. The current administration has stated that it wants our energy costs to "necessarily skyrocket". The current administration wants to fundamentally transform this country. Personally, unlike some, I have been proud of this country all of my life, and don't believe it should be "fundamentally transformed". But, that's me. Some think we should have a market socialist economy. That's not me.
But, I don't want to get into a political war, on the Corvette Forum, so I will just say that I'm glad that we still live in a country where we are able to disagree, and if the people so choose, change the course we are on. Happy trails, to you.
First, from the New York Times:
"Estimate Places Natural Gas Reserves 35% Higher
Thanks to new drilling technologies that are unlocking substantial amounts of natural gas from shale rocks, the nation’s estimated gas reserves have surged by 35 percent, according to a study due for release on Thursday.
Estimated natural gas reserves rose to 2,074 trillion cubic feet in 2008. . ."
This is said to be a 100 year supply.
Canada, a trusted, reliable trading partner has the second largest oil reserves in the world.
Then there's this;
“The technical groundwork may be in place for a fundamental shift in oil shale economics,” the Rand Corporation recently declared. “Advances in thermally conductive in-situ conversion may enable shale-derived oil to be competitive with crude oil at prices below $40 per barrel. If this becomes the case, oil shale development may soon occupy a very prominent position in the national energy agenda.”
Estimated U.S. oil shale reserves total an astonishing 1.5 trillion barrels of oil – or more than five times the
stated reserves of Saudi Arabia.
Read more: Oil Shale Reserves http://dailyreckoning.com/oil-shale-...#ixzz1PNFiqkev
A good read for those so inclined.
It all boils down to politics. Our current administration doesn't want the public to be able to use the oil we have, much less the oil we could get in the future. The current administration has stated that it wants our energy costs to "necessarily skyrocket". The current administration wants to fundamentally transform this country. Personally, unlike some, I have been proud of this country all of my life, and don't believe it should be "fundamentally transformed". But, that's me. Some think we should have a market socialist economy. That's not me.
But, I don't want to get into a political war, on the Corvette Forum, so I will just say that I'm glad that we still live in a country where we are able to disagree, and if the people so choose, change the course we are on. Happy trails, to you.
