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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Okay I am finally going to pull the trigger, anyone in the Los Angeles area want to help me do a cam change, I will pay you a fair fee.
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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never mind found a few shops, that can do it for me, I can wait to finally have the right cam in it....









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never mind found a few shops, that can do it for me, I can wait to finally have the right cam in it....
Ah...if only life were that simple again...

Interesting specs on that cam. Looking forward to some dyno sheets, as I'm always curious about "power under the curve" results from this vs. that profile.

I B a watchin' U!

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What are you doing about a tune? MAF will work with some rather large changes but I'm guessing you are over the line with that lump stick.
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going down from a Comp 230/236 280 xfi

my Auto-prom was put away months ago, literally now I am on third gen reviewing stuff , so I can re tune for the smaller cam.

it should not be that much of a difference in timing and fueling... I hope, should be fun to tackle.
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Okay, so the shop an I need to know if the steering rack had to come out? I think I know the answer, but maybe one of yous know a trick or 2. the damper puller won't fit, any other consideration after we pull the damper? do i have t lift the engine?









another thing is the distributor gear is wearing funny, any idea what is causing this? cam shaft end play?









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You need to unscrew the PS line that goes into the top of the rack. There is a small loop in the line but it is not big enough to fit the end of the puller.
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just unscrew the line? and there will enough clearance?
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excessive play between distributor gear and distributor body; any speed shop can sell you a shim kit.

Is your engine a factory roller? if so, the front of the cam is retained by a retainer plate which eliminated fore and aft movement of the cam.

bad oil pump with excessive internal drag, just plain overloading the gear?
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yeah they figured out how to pull the damper, thanks Kubs you are right

the cam is stuck half way, hitting the cross member, need to loosen the motor mounts.




some think the dist gear wear is the result of the 280 xfi cam gear being new and the worn 150k mile old distributor accelerating wear, some thinks it's the hardness of the comp cam gear, no consensus.

should I replace with steel?

the shaft in the dist housing is nice and snug no slop there.

the cam roller chain retaining bolt had too thick washers on them and brushed up against the timing cover,we discovered, glad I have it apart.



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I decided to have Ron ( cusinartvette) do his magic on my Super ram, so I dropped it off today and he is making great time with it and it looks nasty! check it out!





















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Good luck! cant wait to see this thing together! Take vids.
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yeah they figured out how to pull the damper, thanks Kubs you are right

the cam is stuck half way, hitting the cross member, need to loosen the motor mounts.
No problem. when I did mine I only took the bolt out of one motor mount and jacked up the engine a bit. If I remember you only need a little bit more clearance.
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excessive play between distributor gear and distributor body; any speed shop can sell you a shim kit.

Is your engine a factory roller? if so, the front of the cam is retained by a retainer plate which eliminated fore and aft movement of the cam.

bad oil pump with excessive internal drag, just plain overloading the gear?

That was a new HV mellings that went in 18,000k mikes ago, the oil pressure has been creeping down since new, how do you measure dist shaft play, it was a stock configuration from the factory with one shim

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should I buy a new timing chain?
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Good thing you got that apart when you did!

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How much time on the cam?

That kind of galling on the cam lobes I'd expect to see from a flat tappet cam.

Were the springs close to binding?

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How much time on the cam?

That kind of galling on the cam lobes I'd expect to see from a flat tappet cam.

Were the springs close to binding?

18k on the build, pistons, head, cam, one lobe is starting to look like the bad one, I think the BS started miles ago, luckily, we caught it, any more grinding and the crap would have had a field day on the bearings and bye bye engine.


the 8019 springs were an upgrade from AFR and can handle max lift .650, I was at .575.

Comp said valve floatation/tappet bounce can undermine the hard surface, I think it is a bad cam, out of warrantee, but they sold me one at cost,....
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