Thanks Joe. You are, of course, right again. I must have over looked Calderone's thread. I did not see what you are referring to.

 

I can find no threads by Calderone. Is the spelling correct?

 

"what we have here is a massive failure to communicate!"

laughing at both of us, bill. sammy calderone post is in tech, where this one should be.

it shows how to find the relay, I am not suggesting that his problem was the relay. the solution has not been posted.

I will be blunt, but not caustic. I am on the forums to learn things, and to offer advice if I have any. when I explain the fsm to one who has it and can read for himself, and that person does not follow any of the suggestions, what value is it to anyone?

if you are not able or willing to have someone help you check the solenoid, take your car to a mechanic. eactly what I would do

joe

 

Sorry to bother you. No need to respond.

 

I think that we shouldn't loose sight of the fact that this forum is dedicated to a Hobby and Hobbies are supposed to be FUN! We should also be patient with our fellow members as not everyone possesses the same Mechanical Ability and Computer Ability as well as the ability to follow and comprehend the Flow Charts in the FSM. There is no need to Scold another member who is frustrated and needing help.

 

Hi Bill , maybe its mispelled , Calderone is not the same as Calderone , and i'm Calderone


ps : Did you find your problem ?

 

Here's my thread

 

Thank you. That was very helpful.

 

I should let this slide, tex. I give the same advice to others that I try to follow.

four years ago, I decided to take my 91 to a Corvette shop for a heater coil replacement. I dropped it off, one October afternoon, and walked home following the rr tracks across Louisville, a full 3 miles. the following afternoon, I walked back to get it.

I knew how to do the work, but would rather walk 6 miles and pay someone $460 to do it.
Since then, I have more time -and more inclination- to do all the work on it, except for mounting tires.

if you followed the thread, you would note that the OP had not followed any of the simple advice given. if I cannot experiment with jiggling the shifter to check the neutral switch, how can you expect me to hook up a complicated "jolt start" kit, which you recommended?
does it make sense to you that one would not check a terminal under the car -which is ultimately where the starter action is- but would instead tear the front of the dash apart to find a relay, which may not be the problem?

this is a public forum as you said, and people invent stuff to entertain themselves. it happens. if we have the fsm for the car, can't most of us locate the starter relay or switch without the internet?

we all have the same choices -do it ourselves, sell the car, or have someone else do it. but we have to take some action other than the face in the computer. if the OP had some personal problems, he/she never indicated it.

what do YOU recommend to the OP to isolate the problem, truly, tex? (joking, joking!)

regards,
joe

 

As I said. There was no response necessary. I do, however, have an fsm. There is nothing in it regarding a starter enabler relay.If you think there was some fraud or insencerety here, then that is your problem. If you can't respond civily with some degree of courteousness, I suggest you not respond at all. Perhaps you should find some other way to spend you time.

 

First of all , He is trying to help YOU , for your own good

Can you Post a pic of your FSM ? ,maybe you don't have the real one
and maybe your FSM is very very fraudulent or not sincere.
Now ..joking aside , maybe someone took the page off , because
it must have the starter enable relay page

 

Just a foot note. I tried the jiggling of the shift lever and all other remedies suggested. I am a wounded V. Nam veteran. I also have a son who died in Iraq, chasing down the elusive WMD's that existed only in the mind of a schizophrenic chief executive.. The Corvette that I own was to have been a gift to him, upon his return. He was awarded, by the generosity of this very forum, a brick in the Natl. Corvette Museum and also a lifetime membership of this forum. His name was Patrick W. Herried. I have no problems or disabilities as you aluded to. I resent the suggestion that my post may have been something other than sincere or legitimate. Having said that. It was no reason for you to be rude or as you say "caustic". If you can't respond with some degree of civility, I suggest you find another way to spend your time.

 

Hey Bill, what page are you looking into it ...do you have the electric suplement ???
This is all you need :


http://members.shaw.ca/dankai/Vats%20Electrical.pdf

 

http://tech.corvettecentral.com/wp-c...ter-Switch.jpg

sammy, the 88 had a starter switch. not familiar with it, as the 91 shows a relay left side under steering column. should be in your fsm.


joe

 

I Have that light blue box on my 87 too

 

I was able to push the car out of the garage, and into the light of day. I jacked the car up, and set the jack stand. About all I was able to do from that position was tap the starter lightly with my ratchet. Voila! It started immediately. I then discerned that it was indeed the starter, right, or wrong? I took it for a 15 minute drive to recharge the battery. I parked it infront of my rented garage once again, and turned it off. It started several times before dieing once again. I pushed it into the garage and locked the door.

 

Glad to know that Bill, are you planning on replacing or repair it ?

 

I will probably replace it with a rebuilt Delco unit. Any suggestions? Thanks to all of you. for your help. Sorry if I upset anyone. Joe Paco, you did your best. I can understand your hesitance. I should have let you know that I had, indeed tried your suggested remedies. You are all good people, and this forum is, and has been, invaluable to me. Thanks to all once again.

 

Look in your area for an Automotive Electric Company that rebuids Starter's and Alternators. It is about 1/4 of the price and you retain your same starter that will be Numbers Matching for your car if it has never been changed before. I think I paid around $80 to have my starter rebuilt and a rebuilt one was around $300. Just check around if you can.

 

bill, right now no one knows if you hit the starter or the solenoid, or if you jarred one or the other. either one is highly likely of being the problem. I think the starter can get bad air gap between stator and rotor, hitting it with a hammer can change gap, whatever.

GM had a problem with black paint on the block, starter grounding points, causing the no click problem, also.

the solenoid purple wire -nut- can get loose, get corroded, build up high resistance, then can't pull in the coil. if it has 7 volts or so it will click, but no more action than that.
the same wire can get pinched by the shifter, against a steel bracket,
so I hear, and the high resistance causes the no click.

if it has been the starter all along, you should have heard the click from the solenoid. do you recall -now- what it does when you try to start it? should verify that there is a click or no.

many many yrs back, ('63) I rebuilt a starter instead of a faulty neutral safety switch. never forgot that lesson. back then, it was easy to access, a powerglide. the point is that the entire circuit from key to solenoid terminal is suspect until proven otherwise.

jc