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Burning Brakes
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From: Naples Campania
I'm 24. I HATE MY OWN DAMN AGE GROUP.
We are a bunch of idiotic ricer building punks with no real knowledge of cars. Do you know how I learned about cars? From my dad and my grandpa. Ask people of my generation and younger how often their dad popped the hood on a car and started teaching them things. It's rare. VERY rare. You can blame fuel injection for making it too complex, you can blame the economy.... whatever. What is the best thing we can do? Get the kids interested. When I have a kid (
) I'm going to pop open the hood on the 69 Mach I (I want one. Yes, a Mustang, but a CLASSIC Mustang... and a FAST one too) and the 91 Vette and start pointing stuff out. When he gets old enough, I'll get him something to work on himself.
Anyways... forget about the kids today. Only a real man can handle a Corvette.
We are a bunch of idiotic ricer building punks with no real knowledge of cars. Do you know how I learned about cars? From my dad and my grandpa. Ask people of my generation and younger how often their dad popped the hood on a car and started teaching them things. It's rare. VERY rare. You can blame fuel injection for making it too complex, you can blame the economy.... whatever. What is the best thing we can do? Get the kids interested. When I have a kid (
) I'm going to pop open the hood on the 69 Mach I (I want one. Yes, a Mustang, but a CLASSIC Mustang... and a FAST one too) and the 91 Vette and start pointing stuff out. When he gets old enough, I'll get him something to work on himself.Anyways... forget about the kids today. Only a real man can handle a Corvette.
Race Director
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From: El Paso Texas
Gonna be a resto-mod. Thought about leaving it all original, but the benefits of EFI and overdrive are overwhelming....and the wow factor under the hood with a swap is always cool. I loved opening the trunk of the V8 Fiero and watching the jaws drop.
Young folks only fall into 2 categories for me today.....those I respect greatly (often military), and those I detest. Seems like most young 'uns today are either over achievers or under achievers. There isn't much middle ground any more.
Race Director
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From: Overland Park Kansas
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An appeal to the younger generation could be a reference to engine options. At least one poster (in the past) commented on GM's desire to offer engines with less than 8 cylinders. We see 6-cylinder motors in the Camaros that will run circles around the C4s. We see Formula cars making fanastic power with high revs and fewer cylinders.
With a "space age" look (as shown in pics above), more efficient motors could be something GM believes will attract younger buyers.
Just a WAG though.
With a "space age" look (as shown in pics above), more efficient motors could be something GM believes will attract younger buyers.
Just a WAG though.
Team Owner
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Racer
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From: Alpine, Texas
I have to agree that the price is what's keeping GM from selling more vettes. If you look at the price increases over the years, and you may be an "older" owner, and compare that to how your pay raises may or may not have kept pace...enough said. When I was 20, I could easily afford a 2 year old vette. Now...not hardly! But I HATE the C6 look anyway, and I have yet to see a prototype that I find attractive!
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Hmm if GM drops the price too much then there will be more Corvettes than Camrys.
Like a belly button, everyone has one....
Like a belly button, everyone has one....
Team Owner
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From: Somewhere in Mo
St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
They may try to tone it down some because one fact remains, they are becoming ever increasingly expensive for all but those with deep pockets.
I would be more interested in a "quality" vette versus what they've produced lately. Not sure about the quality of the C6, only from what I've read here, but the C5 quality is just north of a yugo. The C4 was much better quality overall. IMO. especially the latter C4's maybe not so much the earlier ones.
Le Mans Master
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From: San Diego, Ca
Kinda been saying this for awhile - unless GM produces something the younger generation will buy, the Vette dies. For the past decade, youngster's with money buy - lease - Beemers (at least out here) and even though Hef is still boinking 18 year olds, I don't think he could save the Vette even if he bought one for each of his honeys (nor would they want one). Our AARP cards give us discounts on Buicks (also redesigned for a younger crowd but I've yet to see someone younger than 65 in a new one). GM and the US Manufacturers are enigma - major concessions from the Unions on Wages and Benefits, but inflationary Sticker's on pony cars and new models that claim 40 mpg or better. Someday soon there will be a new paradigm (and Vette), or Toyota, if not Hyundai, will be the only purveyors of our mobile appliances.
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Wasn't this thought process regarding lowering the price to entice a new group of buyers the thought behind the inititial fixed roof C5s? I hated those cars so much; never understood the purpose of a bargain-basement Corvette.
I read the USA Today article too and I wonder what it means. If the car is headed for the ricer/ghetto crowd I send end the line. Just stop making them.
I read the USA Today article too and I wonder what it means. If the car is headed for the ricer/ghetto crowd I send end the line. Just stop making them.
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
Wasn't this thought process regarding lowering the price to entice a new group of buyers the thought behind the inititial fixed roof C5s? I hated those cars so much; never understood the purpose of a bargain-basement Corvette.
I read the USA Today article too and I wonder what it means. If the car is headed for the ricer/ghetto crowd I send end the line. Just stop making them.
I read the USA Today article too and I wonder what it means. If the car is headed for the ricer/ghetto crowd I send end the line. Just stop making them.
That was the initial thought but they scrapped it. They were 400 bucks cheaper and ended up with many of the performance upgrades as a result without all the fluff the old guys wanted.The thought was to build them for the guys who buy them and track and didn't want all the extra crap that they ended up ripping out anyway.
That led to the Z06. I've heard so many people complain you can't get a FRC in a C6 I can't count them all.
That "bargain" FRC outran any C5, or any vette other than "maybe' a ZR1 up until 01 when the Z06 came out with 385HP.
Not bad for a bargain basement vette!
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Le Mans Master
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From: Edmonton, Alberta
That was the initial thought but they scrapped it. They were 400 bucks cheaper and ended up with many of the performance upgrades as a result without all the fluff the old guys wanted.The thought was to build them for the guys who buy them and track and didn't want all the extra crap that they ended up ripping out anyway.
That led to the Z06. I've heard so many people complain you can't get a FRC in a C6 I can't count them all.
That "bargain" FRC outran any C5, or any vette other than "maybe' a ZR1 up until 01 when the Z06 came out with 385HP.
Not bad for a bargain basement vette!
Racer
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From: Corona California
I'm 23 years old, and I know far too well what the people in my age group like.
The reason most younger kids like ricers is because of movies like Fast & The Furious. The first one came out when I was in middle school and just about everyone wanted those ugly Mistubishi Eclipse, I was one of the few that just wanted a Vette. Add another 4 movies later, now the younger kids want Evo's, Civic SI's, Scions etc....
Although most people my age out here in California like the new Chargers, Mustangs, Camaros etc....They market them towards the younger generation. You see plenty of V6's everywhere just because they like the look, but cannot afford the V8.
There's NO WAY the C7 will be cheaper. With the price of the new Camaro, if anything it's going to cost a bit more than the current C6.
By them marketing towards the younger generation, I think they might just try and make it look more "Exotic".
Personally, I think a lot of you are just looking too far into it. The C7 will be a great car, and if it isn't, you've got 6 models before that to choose from.
The reason most younger kids like ricers is because of movies like Fast & The Furious. The first one came out when I was in middle school and just about everyone wanted those ugly Mistubishi Eclipse, I was one of the few that just wanted a Vette. Add another 4 movies later, now the younger kids want Evo's, Civic SI's, Scions etc....
Although most people my age out here in California like the new Chargers, Mustangs, Camaros etc....They market them towards the younger generation. You see plenty of V6's everywhere just because they like the look, but cannot afford the V8.
There's NO WAY the C7 will be cheaper. With the price of the new Camaro, if anything it's going to cost a bit more than the current C6.
By them marketing towards the younger generation, I think they might just try and make it look more "Exotic".
Personally, I think a lot of you are just looking too far into it. The C7 will be a great car, and if it isn't, you've got 6 models before that to choose from.
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St. Jude Donor '09-'10, '14
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Most of you might not like this, but everyone who owns a foreign car helped the foreign car makers take over the car market here in the United States and put all our children in them too.
My children drive American cars just as I do and my parents do. Maybe most of the parts are made overseas, that's another issue all together, but we stay as true as possible.
Just my two cents, but I also believe EVERYONE should do at least two years of military service, and that ain't going to happen either.
Why did Americans start selling our country out?
My children drive American cars just as I do and my parents do. Maybe most of the parts are made overseas, that's another issue all together, but we stay as true as possible.
Just my two cents, but I also believe EVERYONE should do at least two years of military service, and that ain't going to happen either.
Why did Americans start selling our country out?
Burning Brakes
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From: Coldville
This is another reason not to beleive everything you read.
So they say the vette apeals to 50+ guys only is a lie.
If the person that wrote that article or the gm person he quoted new anything about the HISTORY and the timeline and the PRICING, of the Corvette they would know why most of the new Vettes are owned by older people.
They will have to lower the PRICE to the low 30 Grand and you will see younger people buying them.
Most sport cars in and above the Vettes price are way out of reach for younger guys.
The fact that its a 2 seater is another, if your a younger guy with a family and you need more room.
many other things come into play.
Dont believe every thing you read or you become a sheep like the rest of the followers.
I started liking vettes and porshes at around 13 years old (so I guess my mid-life crissis started then) Whatever
So they say the vette apeals to 50+ guys only is a lie.
If the person that wrote that article or the gm person he quoted new anything about the HISTORY and the timeline and the PRICING, of the Corvette they would know why most of the new Vettes are owned by older people.
They will have to lower the PRICE to the low 30 Grand and you will see younger people buying them.
Most sport cars in and above the Vettes price are way out of reach for younger guys.
The fact that its a 2 seater is another, if your a younger guy with a family and you need more room.
many other things come into play.
Dont believe every thing you read or you become a sheep like the rest of the followers.
I started liking vettes and porshes at around 13 years old (so I guess my mid-life crissis started then) Whatever
Melting Slicks
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From: Auburn MA
The back end on that C7 concept just doesnt do it for me.... too much real estate back there and what is with the tail lights... why get away from the circular tails its almost like a style trademark amongst the vettes.