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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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College is covered...just a little less coin left when I check out.

'course I may regret this if I find myself living on cat food in 10 or 20 years, but sometimes you just gotta have a little fun, eh?
I know that exact feeling. I decided to start buying parts for a cam swap in my C4 and I strapped a decent sized turbo to my beater Civic sedan. Probably not the best financial decision because I am in college, but what the hell. I really hate how this term has been used for the past couple of years, but I'll still say it; you only live once and you have to make the best out of the short time you've got on this big ol' rock.
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'course I may regret this if I find myself living on cat food in 10 or 20 years, but sometimes you just gotta have a little fun, eh?


Alright, my friend ... let's get that thing to start all the time and then start smoking those tires
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Having fun driving it, fer sure.

No stalls for a week now. I had the fuel pressure checked 60psi running, holding at 55psi after shutting down the engine. They also scoped the fuel pump current waveform:



Had a chance to use the AC yesterday & it blows nice and cold.
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Originally Posted by 3D87C4
Having fun driving it, fer sure.

No stalls for a week now. I had the fuel pressure checked 60psi running, holding at 55psi after shutting down the engine. They also scoped the fuel pump current waveform:



Had a chance to use the AC yesterday & it blows nice and cold.
I'm getting envious of your ride! After I buy the wife a new house (and me a new shop) I might have to put this on the to do list.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 07:40 AM
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Hi 3D87C4,

First off, congratulations on running the CARB gauntlet! I've been wanting to do this swap for years, but that was always a stumbling block living in So Cal; now that I moved next door to Nevada, CARB is no longer an issue for me.

I've followed your swap on another forum and had a few questions:

1) What oil pan are you using, and did Vetteworks have to clearance/cut anything to make it fit?

2) How did you get the cruise control to work?! I presume you used the stock turn signal stalk?

Thanks in advance!
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Old May 2, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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We used the stock oil pan that came on the engine. Dan makes the motor mounts and I believe the pan clearance, and windshield wiper motor clearance, are a factor in his design.

I bought the cruise module and TCI EZ-TCU bundled together. (see post 66 above.) It all seemed to work, though it took a couple of tries to get the break disengage wired right. The BAR Referee forced me to replace the TCI TCU with a GM one (even he thought this was BS, but rules is rules). While talking with the GM engineer about this, he expressed concerns about after market cruise units (tranny will fail quickly if not done right) and I couldn't get the seller of my module to address these concerns. It seemed to work fine, but... GM has a plug and play cruise module, specifically designed for the EROD engines, coming soon and I'm going to get one when available.

Yes, we did use the stock stalk.


Oh, and as for the inspection: two points

first, if you have the sticker that comes with the engine you don't even have to go to the BAR referee, a smog station alone is acceptable.

second, wherever you have it inspected it's important they be familiar with the EROD package, or at least willing to actually read the EO and EROD installation instructions.

My first inspection failed because I had stored codes I should have known about, we'd lost the CARB sticker, and the inspector was clueless so dinged me on everything whether it was covered in the instructions or not. I'd bet the second inspector (different location with a reputation for knowing the EROD package) wouldn't have even done anything about the TCU if it hadn't been flagged by the first guy.

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Old May 2, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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Thanks for the info, 3D87C4! Sorry I missed the mention of the Sparky's module, however, GM releasing a cruise control module for the e38 ECU certainly solidifies my plans.
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You're welcome. My GM contact couldn't give me a firm release date, you know how that goes, but I don't use cruise often so am willing to wait.

Their plug and cruise TCU is a nice option too, BTW. It is still programmable, for those who want to, but is otherwise a plug and play install. I'm still using the "street" calibration & it's very drivable. One of these days I'll try the "performance" setting to see how much of a kick in the pants that adds to the shifts.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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Aaargh!

Tranny has failed! Started slipping last week and was just about undriveable when I took it to my local mechanic last night.

Looking to see how to get it covered by the warranty.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Sorry to hear that man!! The new hp and tq probably put too much of a strain on it. I guess I was lucky. With just under 90K miles my 700R4 went out before I had the LS3 Hot Cam installed. I had it rebuilt and since then, no tranny issues at all. I don't track the car at all so everyone has told me the tranny and my Dana 36 should hold up. Hope they are right.
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Brand new 4L70...
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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At least it's under Warranty.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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Yes...unless the issues raised in post 506 become a problem.

Everything seemed fine 'til I put in the GM TCU...
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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Ok...this is interesting...

The current catalog recommends using the 4l60 with the EROD ls3, but this was a bit vague back in 2011 so I ordered the beefier 4L70. Now that the stronger tranny has failed, I'm told that it only has a 1 year warranty because it's not used in a production vehicle. The 4l60, though, does have a 3 year warranty.

I'm appealing to my GM contact, but suspect I'm going to have to swallow this.



Ok...may have vented too soon. My GM contact just asked me to open a Technical Assistance case with the dealership.

I'll do a little deep breathing now...

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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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I hope this all works out after all the effort you've put in. I remember one fellow here who got rid of a 95 pace car because the battery went dead!
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LOL...just replaced the battery.

Thought about getting rid of my Van 'cause it keeps killing batteries, but got a solar trickle charger instead.

Push comes to shove, I'll cough up the dough to get this fixed. I'm more concerned about figuring out why it happened. I don't want to replace tranny's every 5000 miles!
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It's a long shot, but the engineer assigned to my case say's the District Manager After Sales (DMA) has some latitude in deciding whether the warranty applies in cases like this.

Trying to identify and contact the DMA now.
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Loaded up and headed to Abel Chevrolet:



The good news is:

After a confab with the GM engineer assigned to my case the DMA is "inclined" to cover the cost of the tranny depending, of course, on a review of the install and examination of the tranny itself.
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Originally Posted by 3D87C4
The good news is:

After a confab with the GM engineer assigned to my case the DMA is "inclined" to cover the cost of the tranny depending, of course, on a review of the install and examination of the tranny itself.
You've had a great attitude throughout this journey. Here's hoping that GM does the right thing
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Thanks.

The EROD engineers have been very supportive so I'm optimistic GM will help.

The important thing is getting it back on the road and being sure (as possible) this won't happen again.
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