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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Most of our highways around here are at 75 now ( some 80+ out in west Texas). 10 over is usually safe from paying the revenue, many officers locally won't write until your 15 over.

Somehow over the years I've developed an uncanny habit of only getting warnings. I average about 1 "fine" about every 7 or 8 years. I've done it now, probably get a big one tomorrow!!
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 12:56 AM
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DAMN! You guys are much *****-ier than I! Cops in VA are dicks, and I keep it to ~5mph over. Well, I cruise at 10mph over if I'm in a real hurry. Even at 5mph, I've been pulled over 4 times in the past year for warnings. Cops here seem to hate Corvettes, and my grandfather's torch red C5 vert really pisses them off.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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C4 in Mesa, I'm a first time Corvette owner and live in Phoenix I've had my 427 about 6 months and have been pulled over 3 times already. I admit I have had a lead foot, but I'm getting more reasonable in my driving habits as this is getting expensive! I think I just wanted to get a feel for what the car could do. My last ticket could have landed me in jail since I was doing 105 in a 70 zone on I-8 coming back from San Diego, near the border on the.CA side. The guy cut me a break and wrote it for just 90 in a 70. I paid the $300 ticket and considered myself lucky. I was actually doing 130 shortly before I was stopped. I've got a radar detector but they must have "instant on" radar or something as it alerts me too late, and then the cop just gets more irritated when he sees that I have it.
Since then I have slowed down considerably. It's a shame we don't have an Autobahn like in Germany where fast cars and skilled drivers can haul ***. I sometimes wonder why I bought a car that can perform so well when I can't utilize it to it's potential. Kind of seems like a waste sometimes. Maybe I need to investigate where I can let it loose on a track somewhere?
So after getting pulled over 3 times () for the same thing, did you get any points on your drivers license? Usually points or a suspension has a REAL cure for people who want to drive fast on public roadways. Keep it on the track when you want to feel the potential of that 427. You'll have no negative impressions of police officers that way too.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FOURSPEEDVETTE
So after getting pulled over 3 times () for the same thing, did you get any points on your drivers license? Usually points or a suspension has a REAL cure for people who want to drive fast on public roadways. Keep it on the track when you want to feel the potential of that 427. You'll have no negative impressions of police officers that way too.
There are some nuckingfutz on here.

Slow it down and if you just have the need for speed then you need to take it to the track. A road course is even more fun as you can truly see the capability of your Vette.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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C4 in Mesa, I'm a first time Corvette owner and live in Phoenix I've had my 427 about 6 months and have been pulled over 3 times already. I admit I have had a lead foot, but I'm getting more reasonable in my driving habits as this is getting expensive! I think I just wanted to get a feel for what the car could do. My last ticket could have landed me in jail since I was doing 105 in a 70 zone on I-8 coming back from San Diego, near the border on the.CA side. The guy cut me a break and wrote it for just 90 in a 70. I paid the $300 ticket and considered myself lucky. I was actually doing 130 shortly before I was stopped. I've got a radar detector but they must have "instant on" radar or something as it alerts me too late, and then the cop just gets more irritated when he sees that I have it.
Since then I have slowed down considerably. It's a shame we don't have an Autobahn like in Germany where fast cars and skilled drivers can haul ***. I sometimes wonder why I bought a car that can perform so well when I can't utilize it to it's potential. Kind of seems like a waste sometimes. Maybe I need to investigate where I can let it loose on a track somewhere?
My name is Dan and I actually live in Gilbert but Mesa sounds cooler. I strongly suggest you join A.C.E. Arizona Corvette Enthusiasts it's free and a great bunch of guys. There are allot of guys who own C6's and even a few C7's. The club is fun and we meet the first Saturday of each month in Scottsdale at Corvette Performance 2318 N Scottsdale Rd. Just show up and park your car and introduce yourself these guys are just like you. Now as far as a track goes ? I never looked into it. I did research a place you can just open it up and go as fast as it can go and came up with Bonneville Salt Flats in northern Utah or some place in CA. I am thinking CA might not be so remote but again I am not certain. As for your situation I completely sympathize with you. Some members REALLY hammer the point of danger and public safety. I agree with them. Once an accident happens its too late. However there are places out here where WE LIVE that are unique to anything these guys have ever seen except in movies. Miles and miles of open desert flat and straight. If you drive a car like a Corvette and never want to go over 65-75 miles per hour well you are WEIRD. I had my wake up call to speeding and the consequences are losing my license if I keep it up. I know a guy who owns 3 Corvette's and one sits on a trailer. He drives it on some road course and races it around. Very expensive but he does his own work so he is dumping money into parts and tires. I suspect he gets the bug out of his system racing on that track. Personally I don't think wearing a helmet when I drive my car sounds fun. I'm 6'2" and I weigh 245. No Im not some fat slug my waist is 34". I barley fit in that car and I slouch a bit so my eyes see through the windshield and not the visor. I am rambling now. Well the law rules and so does public safety. Seeing that wide open stretch of desert is SOOOOOO tempting. Oh the last A.C.E meeting I went to there were two guys in modified Corvettes. One a twin turbo C5 and the other a Z06 with a supercharger on it. Both from Payson AZ. They were saying they made it to the meeting in 35minutes. 85 miles and not all open road. In fact its twists and turns and the occasional small town you pass by. The meeting is in south Scottsdale not north. These guys had to have been doing 140+ on stretches permissible. Average 100mph. They also had a device that causes a cops radar detector to blank out to zero. I said But if he sees you going 140+ mph he will still pull you over ! Oh after he catches up.

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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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I think the 06 Z06 set a record when they first came out for number of Corvettes upside down with the lowest miles or something like that (or was it highest number crashed on the way home after delivery from the dealership). Sometimes I wonder why they allow the general public to have that much horsepower when they quickly screw it up for everybody else who wants to operate it responsibly
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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I think the 06 Z06 set a record when they first came out for number of Corvettes upside down with the lowest miles or something like that (or was it highest number crashed on the way home after delivery from the dealership). Sometimes I wonder why they allow the general public to have that much horsepower when they quickly screw it up for everybody else who wants to operate it responsibly
Greg the answer is simple MONEY. Who is "They" ? Not to get into a ridiculous political rant but do you really want the government to restrict the amount of HP a car can have ? Or how fast a car can go ? These sorta things are decided by the public and thus money. I myself am part of this as I spend money on parts that make my car faster. GM and Ford do the same as does every car company for that matter. The new Camry has 268HP ! That thing will smoke a stock L98 Corvette ! I started this thread to get an understanding of how many guys had also received speeding tickets and how it affected their driving habits. I got VERY LITTLE to none on that and more scolding than anything. Look I know that speeding is dangerous. I live in AZ and we have the second highest number of deaths on the road in the USA. First is CA and our population is 6.5 million. CA population is 38 million. I learned a lesson and it might have prevented me from causing a terrible accident. I will not say that out in the open desert I won't get my C4 up over 100 miles an hour ever again. That would be a lie. However I am no longer going to driving over 140mph on the city Loops like I did many times. For that matter 75 in 65 zones or I should say an this is an honest answer keep with whatever everybody else is doing. I won't be that lone car zooming along passing everyone else.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck314
C4in Mesa,

I'm a police officer and for several years I was in a traffic safety unit conducting primarily speed enforcement. I don't blame the cop for being rude, you were doing 92 mph. Now put your self in his shoes. Most likely the officer was stationary, parked, at 0 mph. You are doing 92 mph. From a dead stop, think about how fast the officer has to go just to catch up to you just to initiate the car stop.

Can't blame the officer on this one, you brought all of the cop's attention to your self.

Luckily for you this worked out for you in court and I'm glad that nobody was hurt, and your insurance won't know about this.

Be safe and drive slow, the ladies can get a better look at you and the Vette!
Be thankful a ticket is all you got. Depending on your attitude, I probably would have arrested you. That's considered reckless driving in this neck of the woods and most of the time, you're arrested. I've seen VERY few officers cite when you're 20mph over the speed limit. Your actions dictate the officers actions. By your own admission, you were speeding. You don't want any interactions with the police, save the speed for the track. Don't blame the officer being a "dick" when you were driving like one. I wish you could see some of the wrecks I've seen from excessive speed and what happens to a body that's involved in a high speed collision. It's not pretty and I can't erase the images from my mind.
I'm not going to be a hypocrite here and say I haven't done some high speed driving on public roads, but as I've aged, I'd like to think I've got some wisdom. Have fun with your car, but not at the point that it endangers others. I don't think that's difficult. Stay safe out there.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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when i was younger i drove without a care. i racked up enough speeding tickets to lose my license and did. my driving habits did not change until i joined the Army. i settled down and grew up a little. what really made me change my driving habits was when i became a police officer. i have seen many traffic fatalities that were a result of high speed. i've seen people die and knew there was nothing i could do to save them. when you see tragedy as a result of a careless act that could have been prevented, it kind of humbles you and brings you back to reality. i'm not saying that i don't occasionally go 5 or 10 over, because i do. if i was stopped for speeding and received a citation, i would not complain and i would pay the thing. i'm not scolding anyone, just answering the OP's question of how my driving habits were changed.
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I always follow the speed limits.
Me too...
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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We all know having a driver's license is a privilege. What would be the result if having hundreds of horsepower was also a privilege? Suppose your drivers license was stamped with your limit and there was a possibility the judge could lower your limit by 100 with a speeding ticket? Maybe make it where your limit goes back up with each year of maintaining a clean record.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by C4in mesa
..... Both from Payson AZ. They were saying they made it to the meeting in 35minutes. 85 miles and not all open road. In fact its twists and turns and the occasional small town you pass by. The meeting is in south Scottsdale not north. These guys had to have been doing 140+ on stretches permissible. Average 100mph. ....
I lived in Mesa for about 15 years (Red Mountain Ranch) and went up to Payson quite a few times. I am surprised they didn't get stopped. Every time I went there I went through several speed traps. Not a good area to speed.

I also see the Phoenix/Mesa area a little different than many parts of the country. There are some of the worst and most aggressive drivers there. On US 60 at the start or end of rush hour I have seen the bulk of traffic moving at about 85 in a 65 zone. You need to move about that fast just to avoid getting run over or causing problems. I said start or end of rush hour because although US 60 is up to about 6 lanes each direction it comes to a dead stop frequently during rush hours.

I don't know if it is the same any more, but it used to be that the photo radar had to clock you at 11+ miles over the speed limit before it would take your picture. The local police generally followed the same guidelines too. I usually kept it at about 5 to 10 over and never had a problem.

Here in Bloomington, IL it used to be really bad. I saw a friend's ticket that was written for 1 mile over the limit. That was several years ago, but I still don't push it much here.

I understand and like that there are some nice wide open places to enjoy our cars out there, just be careful.
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Old Nov 22, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by QCVette
I lived in Mesa for about 15 years (Red Mountain Ranch) and went up to Payson quite a few times. I am surprised they didn't get stopped. Every time I went there I went through several speed traps. Not a good area to speed.

I also see the Phoenix/Mesa area a little different than many parts of the country. There are some of the worst and most aggressive drivers there. On US 60 at the start or end of rush hour I have seen the bulk of traffic moving at about 85 in a 65 zone. You need to move about that fast just to avoid getting run over or causing problems. I said start or end of rush hour because although US 60 is up to about 6 lanes each direction it comes to a dead stop frequently during rush hours.

I don't know if it is the same any more, but it used to be that the photo radar had to clock you at 11+ miles over the speed limit before it would take your picture. The local police generally followed the same guidelines too. I usually kept it at about 5 to 10 over and never had a problem.

Here in Bloomington, IL it used to be really bad. I saw a friend's ticket that was written for 1 mile over the limit. That was several years ago, but I still don't push it much here.

I understand and like that there are some nice wide open places to enjoy our cars out there, just be careful.
The US60 is where I received my ticket and I should have known and the judge looked out to the court room and said When you see traffic moving at an usual pace you know there is a police officer around ! The court room chuckled believe it or not. It still averages 75mph with the few who run 85 and the careless ones who go 90+. The photo enforcement was removed from the 101 after EXTREME protest. That stretch has the fastest moving cars of any in the valley. Over 90 is not a big surprise. Average 80-85 until you see a DPS officer. Now photo enforcement is only around schools and to catch red light runners. Permanent cameras are mounted at MANY intersections.
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I wonder why they allow the general public to have that much horsepower when they quickly screw it up for everybody else who wants to operate it responsibly
Oxymoron right there^. Who is everybody else? You?
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Be thankful a ticket is all you got. Depending on your attitude, I probably would have arrested you. That's considered reckless driving in this neck of the woods and most of the time, you're arrested. I've seen VERY few officers cite when you're 20mph over the speed limit. Your actions dictate the officers actions. By your own admission, you were speeding. You don't want any interactions with the police, save the speed for the track. Don't blame the officer being a "dick" when you were driving like one. I wish you could see some of the wrecks I've seen from excessive speed and what happens to a body that's involved in a high speed collision. It's not pretty and I can't erase the images from my mind.
I'm not going to be a hypocrite here and say I haven't done some high speed driving on public roads, but as I've aged, I'd like to think I've got some wisdom. Have fun with your car, but not at the point that it endangers others. I don't think that's difficult. Stay safe out there.
I got onto the freeway and traffic was going 60-65mph which should have told me something was out of place but I didn't follow my gut. The HOV lane had a DPS officer driving 65mph and the lane next to the HOV was empty go figure. If I had just looked over my shoulder I would have seen him and joined everybody else in respecting his authority. But I did not and moved into the empty lane and stepped on it to pass at least 6 cars to move ahead and over to my exit up next. As it turns out he was right there and probably got pissed off that jumped right in front of him and punched it. Now I think it is very cool cops are on here and own Corvette's especially C4's ! I am not disrespectful to ANYONE especially a officer in uniform and even more when I am the one looking at a ticket. I called him a dick for taking my car keys and when he got up on my tail for being less than 2 feet from my bumper going 90mph making that terrible noise. But in the end I see he was actually a very cool cop and could have cited me 92 which would have prevented me from traffic school. He knew what court I was going to what judge I would see. I want everyone to know my days of driving like a fool around the valley freeways are OVER. I am not gonna lie and say I won't dump down if I am way out in the desert with nobody around.
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I am not disrespectful to ANYONE.... I called him a dick for...
Maybe I'm missing something here, but...
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There are reasons I'm glad I live where I do. Speeding on a narrow country road is not a good idea. Too many blind hills, and corners where I live to open my baby up too far over the speed limit.

Now...getting to the speed limit on the other hand...
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Oxymoron right there^. Who is everybody else? You?
The state tree in Utah is a Camaro wrapped around a pole isn't it?
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx7
when i was younger i drove without a care. i racked up enough speeding tickets to lose my license and did. my driving habits did not change until i joined the Army. i settled down and grew up a little. what really made me change my driving habits was when i became a police officer. i have seen many traffic fatalities that were a result of high speed. i've seen people die and knew there was nothing i could do to save them. when you see tragedy as a result of a careless act that could have been prevented, it kind of humbles you and brings you back to reality. i'm not saying that i don't occasionally go 5 or 10 over, because i do. if i was stopped for speeding and received a citation, i would not complain and i would pay the thing. i'm not scolding anyone, just answering the OP's question of how my driving habits were changed.
First off, I gotta say I love your black vette. And not trying to steal this thread but, I am 18 and currently fix cars as a profession, lately I've been thinking about becoming a police officer.

Do you think I should?
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The state tree in Utah is a Camaro wrapped around a pole isn't it?
Ahhhh....not that I am aware of. Anyway, I don't live in UT. I live in Park City.

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