I meant did he show you?

 

 

I went to court one time to fight a ticket. The judge agreed that the cop was wrong, threw out the ticket, and made me pay the court cost. ( $25.00 more than the ticket would have cost )
You can't win just pay up and slow down.

 

Ooh, I have all kinds of thoughts on this topic.

But since it's a zombie thread, I mostly just want to find out how it turned out for the OP.

Did you fight? What happened? What radar detector did you go with?

This little thread needs an ending.

 

I'm also curious how this turned out.

I've got a court date tomorrow (91 in a 65 zone) and have a couple statements in my favor... I'm not going to deny that I was going "over 65" (what the ticket is for), but I do have a sparkling clean record, and I was on my way from church to home, to continue care for my elderly mother who is ill. I'm not going to simply admit that I was going 91 -- I wasn't watching the speedo, I was watching the road as I passed another vehicle.

 

Is that what you told the arresting officer?

You need a better tale, IMO.

Good luck!!

 

Good lord, the last thing you want to do is "just pay it and be done with it" = points on your record and (much) higher insurance premiums.

In California this is how it plays out.

Assuming you're eligible for "traffic violators' school", which means that in the last 18 or 24 months (varies, county by county) you haven't been to traffic school:

(1) plead no contest to ticket
(2) pay ticket
(3) ask to be allowed to attend traffic school
(4) pay for, sign up, and attend traffic school
(5) bring "diploma" back to court clerk
(6) violation will be dismissed

no points on your record; no increased insurance rates, no record of speeding

of course you have to pay both the fine and the traffic school "tuition" but it's way better, and ultimately cheaper than the alternative

 

First, I have never been arrested. And no, I did not tell the officer any story of any kind. I provided my credentials, he wrote a ticket and sent me on my way.

Besides, it's not a tale, it is the truth. I do attend church and I do care for my elderly mother, half time (my nearby sister cares for her the other half time). After reading all the posts on this thread, I want to make up a bunch of lies to get me out of trouble. But I won't do that.

When dealing with street officers, I have learned not to make excuses for my behavior. If they don't want to write a ticket, this will be indicated in some way through their interaction (questioning, etc).

Thanks, I might need some luck. Since this is my first speeding ticket, ever, I've done some asking around. Lawyers have told me that ultimately the result will depend if the judge is having a good day, or a bad day. And of course whether the officer shows up, or not.

 

Looks like the last time the OP posted anything was on 7/28/15, 4 days after starting the thread. Either he's (still) in jail, or he got rid of the car.

It would have been fun to listen to him try to explain to the LEO why he was driving a car that didn't belong to him. Sometimes the ticket will stand if the LEO was in court so he could explain exactly what went on. Standard procedure at the stop would be to run the plate to see who the registered owner is, check the OP's drivers license, check if the plate tabs are valid, and maybe in this case, even run the VIN.

I'll bet the OP didn't have liability insurance either (required in WA).

 

It is nearly always worthwhile to at least write a letter to the court if you have a good record. An explanation to the court often gets the fine reduced. Courts use a matrix to lower fines, even if a guilty plea is entered and payment sent in. They may refund part or sometimes all minus court cost.

 

I'm a 15 year leo veteran so let me try to clear up a few things.

Every state has different laws. Every jurisdiction in every state handles these laws differently for the most part. Yes a lot are the same or very similar because states watch other states laws to see how they work and decide if they want to adopt the law or similar law for themselves.

If you speak to the officer, DA, solicitor or judge your luck will depend on the individuals take on how he/she feels about the ticket you received. If in their opinion your speed was not all that excessive and they get the impression from your demeanor that you realize you did wrong and you are remorseful they might drop the ticket and send you on your way. On the flip side if they feel their is a problem with speeders in their jurisdiction and that people need to slow down and the best way to do so is to hit you where it hurts, the pocket book, then be ready to pay the fine.

Incorrect info on the ticked is sloppy but not a dismissible error at least not in my state.

The OP not being the registered owner is no big deal. People drive other peoples cars all the time. Even I barrow my Dad, son or friends trucks when I need to haul something. If the vehicle is not reported stolen then there is no reason to interrogate the operator as to why they are driving that vehicle. If the vehicle is reported stolen after the stop then their is a record of who was driving the car and they will be arrested in short order.

In my state we are not required to show you the speed on the radar/laser that captured your speed. We are only required to perform a one time test on the equipment before we use it to ensure it functions properly and record the test results and date and time of the test on each citation. When I lived in Illinois the law there stated that the officer had to show you the radar if you requested it.

Radar detectors wont help you. When they alert you its already to late. Also radar is antiquated equipment that is being replaced by laser. My department doesn't even have radar anymore we all use laser to detect speed. when your put in the crosshairs and the trigger is pulled we have your speed in a heart beat, no way to avoid it.

In my state insurance is required. Insurance info is attached to the tag at the DMV. When I run a tag I am told if the vehicle is or is not insured. I'm sure this is the case in many other states.

Some states have nolo, no contest, driving school, some will put you on non reporting probation for a time frame usually 6 months to a year and other options. You need to seek legal council to find out your options. Most attorneys give a free one time consultation to try to get your business.

If I were in this situation I would put on my best suite and make an appointment with the DA. I would in a very polite manor plea my case to the DA and ask what agreement we could come to to handle this out of court. The DA understands that you are trying to keep points off your record and he/she recognizes that an out of court agreement will save time and money for you as well as the jurisdiction that employs him/her. I would offer to plead guilty and pay the full fine for the speed recorded for a reduced speed that keeps points off my record.

Bottom line is like most people you are pissed at the police because you got caught. You have three options.

1. lie your way out. Be advised that judges hear lies all day every day and they are very good at knowing who is doing it.

2. Get out of it as best you can with some dignity. Refer to the example of what I would do that I suggested above.

3. Man up and admit to your mistake and pay the fine

 

^^^

What was the best story you ever got from a speed violation suspect? Did it affect the outcome ?

And is stopping a suspected speeder an arrest? If I cannot proceed under my own volition, I consider that arrest. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arrest

 

Just pull up your big boy pants and pay the ticket you so rightly earned.

 

Well, what I would do if I couldn't plea bargain the ticket is try to make the cop violate your 6th amendment therefore dropping the ticket. This is probably a long process and has worked for some people. The ticket he gave you is not really a big money maker so I don't think he's going to be too inclined to use a lot of his time to show up. When you go in, plead not guilty and ask to go to trial. When in trial, request that you speak to the witness against you, (6th amendment guarantees this). Most likely, if you are lucky, he will not be there and they will most likely tell you to come back at a later date when he can come in. So the objective is to schedule a date way down the line if possible. When the time comes, about a week before your case, cancel the case and reschedule for longer down the road. Do this as many times as you can and finally when you go to court, hopefully the officer will have stopped caring and not show up and you can win based on a violation of your 6th amendment right. That is the goal. Good luck if you haven't already handled the situation.

 

Seriously. Doesn't matter if you were driving the batmobile, you were speeding period. You make yourself sound no different then a criminal who just murdered someone but is able to get out of it because the arresting officer, wrote down the witness said he had black jeans on but they were really dark brown.

Own up to your ticket and thank god you didn't crash and hurt someone.

 

Really the worst idea posted, no offense. Especially when you have a LEO suggesting better compromises a couple posts back.

He knows a scam when he's in on it.

Speed limits are completely arbitrary. Law enforcement likes low hanging fruit. Most fatals in our state occur on secondary roads, most tickets come from major highways. Tacit admission that it's all about revenue, not safety.

California, again, does it right. Traffic school is phenomenal. No points, sure. But spending eight hours getting good driving/legal advice from a veteran officer in the most car crazed state in America is priceless.

Big boys ought to know when to stand and fight. And everyone should know the vast difference between murder and arbitrary speed law violations. Go ahead and tell us you never speed there, Pinocchio.

 

The Police have to be on the major streets more then the back roads because more people to watch over. Reason most fatalities are on back roads, because the road conditions are different and more stuff to bounce off of when your doing 90 mph and most people can barely keep their car going in a straight line let alone a curvy road. The o/p was speeding and not just 5 over, he was doing most probably 25 over. That's speeding however you look at it. and the fact that he came on here and said he was a dumb azz for speeding even makes it worse because he is admitting it. How bout not speeding and this post wouldn't have even been written or would there be others telling him to fight it or try to get out of it. I do catch myself going over the speed limit every so often anywhere between 5 to 10 miles. I try to stay at the posted speed or within 5 miles, haven't had a ticket in over 15 years, and that happened because I unfamiliar with the area and I was doing 55 in a 45 and didn't see the sign. My mistake, I paid the ticket. So pay the ticket , go to traffic school and learn to drive safer and be done with it..

 

Hmmm. So when you speed, it's okay because you didn't get caught. Got ya. But of course there's a built in 5 mph fudge factor. Is that in a 45 or a 25 zone?

If you were true to your convictions, you would've turned yourself in, regardless.

Thanks for playing "it's only okay when I do it."

So I guess the OP is long gone, and the GA LEO doesn't care to elaborate. So it goes.

 

Really, did I miss something? Let me review;

Kid takes some one else's Vette for a joy ride.

Kid drives too fast in said Vette.

Kid admits to speeding.

Cop sees kid.

Cop tickets kid.

Kid see an error on the ticket that in no way disputes he was speeding.

Kid wants a way out of the ticket.

Did I get it right? And people here want to give him advice on how to beat it, nice. He needs to man up and deal with the ticket. Pay it, plead it down or fight it but he needs to deal with it. Maybe a good lesson for later in life.

Kind of sums up what's wrong out there sometimes in the real world.

 

WTF?!? Joyride? Where the hell did that come from?

Could you please pull over until the Quaaludes wear off?

So sorry to have revived this zombie.