Shocking how many "car guys" don't understand the C4. Here's a video where some so called expert car guys defile the C4 and basically said it's dogedly slaw and inferior and that you will catch Hep C or Chlamydia from a C4. Absolutely ridiculous.



A 2016 Toyota Subary BRZ still has (around 200HP) way less horsepower than an 80's C4, not to mention the 90's C4's almost double it's horsepower. A 2016 Subaru BRZ also has a third of the torque offered by a C4.

Another example, I was going to by the latest BMW 3 series a few months ago, 6 speed, manual transmission and at that time I already owned my C4, the brand spanking new 3 series had 248 HP which is just the same basically as my 89' Vette and the M3 had way less torque and did knot to 60 in 5.9 seconds with all that new engineering and technology. So what is that makes people so hateful and judgmental of the C4. Pure prejudice.

http://jalopnik.com/subaru-brz-gets-...nev-1778883828

In a documentary I shared on this forum a few months ago Corvette executive said that the chassis of the C4 and it's aerodynamics where almost impossible to improve upon that much in the C5 and C6. BUT people still dog the C4, the executive kind of dogged it passively as well.

 

I get a kick out of those who bad mouth the C4's performance and handling.

I just remember that they won every race for a few years so that SCCA kicked them out into the Corvette Challenge so the other cars could compete. To me that is the best compliment I have heard for any car, and it is not based on opinion. It was based on dominating performance.

 

To be honest, if you look hard enough you'll find an idiot dissing every car you can think of, usually out of ignorance and preconceived notions that have nothing to do with reality.

The C4 is badass. You know it, I know, and those around here know it. Done.

Yup. Every time I hear someone try to dog the C4's handling and performance, I refer to the Corvette Challenge, which they had to make-up because it wasn't even fair to race the Vettes.

 

They're Australian and had no clue about the car, and admitted as much. The American guy that said it should have been 300-400 and they way overpaid is a retard. After they washed it and took all the junk out it was actually a pretty decently clean car. The paint looked to be in good shape and the interior seats looked good too. Someone at some point cared about it and it probably just sat for the past 8 years. It really hurt to watch them cut the fiberglass.

 

Why don't they pick on earlier ones if they're looking for poor performance and handling. 1975 with single exhaust and 165HP. Or the 1980 for California with a 305 cu in

 

Jealousy, maybe? More likely, the Vette receives some backlash for almost ALL cars from the 80s being total crap piles that fell apart almost as soon as you drove them off the lot. Given, they don't suffer from the paint falling off in sheets, insane corrosion, and general lack of quality that other more mainstream cars did, because they are after all, still a vette. But I think guilt by association has a lot to do with it.

 

Valued at 3 to 400? Overpaid? I don't think so. At 2500 I think they paid market value. I also think that there was a lot of staging to make the car look worse than it really was. The dirt on it looked fake and the wheels did not look like anything that anyone would have had a car like that. The paint wasn't even that bad.

 

I actually enjoyed the video and thought it was humorous. They could have chosen any Vette and I would have said the same.

 

IMO it's because "corvette" is held to a high standard for performance and price. It's easy to make a mockery of the c4 if you are not informed or misinformed. realistically though the c4 was good compared to other 80's cars. Today you have people comparing wrx etc to a 25+ year old car.

In 1984- 86 etc I doubt people were comparing a 1959 of any car to the c4. "car guys" these days including myself are not the same thing as decades ago. Even if they wanted to be safety standard and laws prevent it.

They tend to be a larger percent of guys that do simple mods or consider themselves car guys because they read, watch, and look at or buy a car. Some "car guys" don't even have a car believe it or not. (I realize some people fall on hard times)

I have a c4 like very few here and I don't consider myself a car guy, I might know more than some "car guys" about many cars. I am not a car guy. I like toys and having fun with them.

That video on youtube was for the youtubers. If you read the comments on youtube you'll find most smart people don't comment.

I expected nonsense from a nonsense show of wanna be car guys, a guy that does half assed mods to cars for movies that blow them up or whatever, and commenters that read, or make up their facts and stories based on no experience many being kids or idiots with no money or some grocery getter with weight reduction, muffler removed, air filter, wheels, and a wing or plasti dip. etc

Junk show, mostly junk audience, and most usually junk cars and mods. It's a true mockery of the car scene IMO. (not a shot at anyone here that likes the show)

Roadkill is what I would most compare to old car guys when they take a car with unknown issues and drive it taking what ever comes at them from it.

I'm sure someone will tell me being a car guy is in the heart not the bank, BUT... I'm a "boat guy" at heart and I don't have a boat anymore and I could, soooo.

 

I liked the show. It has the same stupid remarks you hear from folks that just don't know the vttes. 84s were slow. .. compared to later years. Still. I had a smile or tooo watching this.

 

I will allow the "judge" his opinion. In many ways, his observations were correct. The car purchased WAS a beater and (as such) is open to humorous "critique".

I don't know if those are standard pickup (or 4x4) flares but you got to give them props for creating something that COULD roll on the set of that movie....or, at least, MAD MAX! LOL

Don't like the straight-out-back exhaust but wth...they had a couple of hours, wanted it to stand out, and accomplished just that.

Considering the C4's include ZR1s, LT4s, LT1s, and L98s, their comments about the 84 cross-ram aren't unreasonable. I look past all that to the smiles on the guys faces who built the rig. Even the "judge" liked it...as did I especially for the amount of time spent.

Hard to gripe if you ask me.

 

I have a couple of C4s, yeah that reminds me of them, like a lot

 

An 84 corvette was a 15 second car NEW. After 35 years of wear and tear and mistreatment, you'd be lucky to run a high 15 with one. So yes, they're slow.

A 200 HP BRZ is a high 14 second car, handles way better than a C4, and is much nicer to drive.
The BMW 330e is a low 14 second car, handles way better than a C4, and is nicer to drive than the C4 and BRZ combined.
Also, the 248 HP 330e isn't available with a 6 speed manual.

Neither of those cars is sold as strictly a performance vehicle like the C4 was, and yet they're still faster. Your comparison is extremely poor.

 

Opinions are like *** holes every one has one

 

Ah....

1. Cars that are maintained don't get slower with age. IDK why people continue to parrot that misguided point. Finally, the OP was likely comparing them "as when new"....not a brand new BRZ vs. a '84 sitting on cinder blocks.
2. Adjust timing and fuel pressure on an '84 (free) and it'll run 14's easy
3. No way the BRZ or the 330 "handles way better" on comparable tires....unless you're talking about the subjective aspects of "handling", in which case, I'd agree with you that the newer cars arguably "drive better"; IOW, they're easier to get to accomplish most maneuvers which is different than which car can accomplish the higher degree of a given maneuver.

I'd take a well maintained '84 over a BRZ in an anuto-x race any day of the week. I'd take an '84 (manual trans) over a BRZ, period. But more importantly, I think the comparison was great. People are absolutely GUSHING over these new cars...simply b/c they're new and foreign...nothing else. The BRZ offers no meaningful content over many...MANY cars that have come before it, and very little to nothing over and '84 'Vette!...but it's gets more respect (at the moment). Same goes for the new Supra. The comparison is valid b/c even though there is some advancement in the new car, after 30 years of "advancement"....the raw numbers aren't meaningfully improved on the cars in the examples.

 

Most who "bash" these cars don not even know enough to say something about that. They probably presume that since it looks like the old "muscle car" it is one and powerful.

I think many people have no clue of all the changes Corvettes have seen.

The people in that show seem more in to what young kids would be in to.

Just realized this was an old revived thread.

 

Car and driver tested the BRZ and the 84 C4 both at .90 G. The BRZ stopped in a shorter distance as well.

 

The BRZ stats tell me the car will pull a 0.9 G. If I remember correctly, the '84 Corvette shocked the testers by pulling a 1.0 G! Have you ever put a car into a 1.0 G drift? You'd better hang on tight if you want me to show you how my '84 handles!!!

 

Bingo. Soooo....

 

Comparing 2 cars 32 years apart is insane to me. It shows where this car stands. Compare any stock 1952 car to an "84 vette new. Sheesh talk about "light years" ahead.