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Old May 14, 2017 | 09:53 AM
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I am having my C4 painted flat black most of the car looks great but the drivers panel keeps bubbling.Paonter has researched and can't come up with an answer!?
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Old May 14, 2017 | 03:12 PM
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I am having my C4 painted flat black most of the car looks great but the drivers panel keeps bubbling.Paonter has researched and can't come up with an answer!?
Wrong painter.
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Old May 14, 2017 | 04:46 PM
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I've had that problem on numerous Vettes. Had a ZR-1 stripped and painted several times because of this issue, and still had the problem. Ended up throwing away a hood on a 94 after three tries. I've also experienced the problem with C3s and C5s. With the C3's it seemed to be a problem that appeared after chemically stripping. Somehow the release agent "out gasses" in the SMC and causes it, or at least that is what I've been told. No one seems to have the answer. In the case of the ZR-1, it hadn't been stripped, it was the factory paint in this instance, the rear quarters. A shop did the work, and the factory rep flew out , and couldn't make it stop. You can Google the problem, or use the search function here...its been discussed many times.

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Old May 14, 2017 | 04:58 PM
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The initial paint facility at Bowling Green was horrible. My clear coat peeled off almost immedtely.

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Old May 14, 2017 | 05:02 PM
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This occurs due to contaminants being absorbed into the smc. Then after being painted it outgasses causing the bubble. Smc is like a spong and absorbs. The affected area needs to be ground out and repaired or replace the panel. A lot of 84 cars had this issue from the factory.
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Old May 14, 2017 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dt86
This occurs due to contaminants being absorbed into the smc. Then after being painted it outgasses causing the bubble. Smc is like a spong and absorbs. The affected area needs to be ground out and repaired or replace the panel. A lot of 84 cars had this issue from the factory.
Interesting, so just out of curiosity if someone ever needs to strip paint off SMC I guess the best method it to just sand it off rather than use paint stripper?
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Interesting, so just out of curiosity if someone ever needs to strip paint off SMC I guess the best method it to just sand it off rather than use paint stripper?
You can use paint stripper. As a matter of fact I know DUB in the paint section uses it all the time. You just want to use it in small sections at a time, on the paint, and once the paint is gone keep it off of the bare smc. You don't want to leave it on there for a long time. Rinse, then block sand the remaining residue off. Actually the best way to remove the bulk of the paint is with a razor blade.

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Originally Posted by Dt86
You can use paint stripper. As a matter of fact I know DUB in the paint section uses it all the time. You just want to use it in small sections at a time, on the paint, and once the paint is gone keep it off of the bare smc. You don't want to leave it on there for a long time. Rinse, then block sand the remaining residue off. Actually the best way to remove the bulk of the paint is with a razor blade.
Thanks for the info Dt86 for the info if I am every repainting i'll keep that in mind.
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What is smc?
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What is smc?
What the body of a Vette is made of.
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Originally Posted by A Peter C4
What is smc?
Sheet Moulding Composite

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Is that a fancy way of saying fiberglass??
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Originally Posted by 856SPEED
Is that a fancy way of saying fiberglass??
SMC or sheet molded composite is not the same as the fiberglass used in older Corvettes. I assume the chemical compounds used to make it etc... are different but I don't know the exact details. For the average enthusiast my guess is just knowing its different and using SMC resin etc for any repairs should be sufficient. But I'll let more knowledgeable people chime in on that.
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Technically SMC is fiberglass. There are various kinds of fiberglass. SMC differs in appearance, it has a shinny marbleized look as opposed to the rough sprayed look of boats, and the press molded style of the early Corvettes. It uses a process where the release agent is in the resin as opposed to sprayed onto the mold. Here is a better explanation...

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7762808_smc-fiberglass.html
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