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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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How do you all feel about cloning our cars???? Grand Sports, Collector's Edition's..... You know putting the badges on them, even if they are not the real thing? Wondering, seen one yesterday :cheers:
Dont get me wrong, I have no intentions of doing this,,,, but I hear of it so much.... The only thing I have ever wanted to do to my car is put the 91 front and back bumper on,,, but my wife say's then buy a 91,,, I said,,,, huh


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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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What ever floats ones boat, I say.

But I wouldn't own a C4 and stick badges on it trying to portray another model.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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I would'nt make a car look to be something it isn't. A corvette it rare enough, If you would like a rarer vette, don't clone one. Because people can tell its a clone, and then it is compleatly worthless.So the money spent to make a good clone car should just go towards the purchase of a reel car. Thats my opinion. :rant:
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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Do a search on this. There was a discussion about this a few months ago. But my feelings are for the money you put into a car to make it a clone you prolly could have just bought the real thing. I'm not a fan of clones, but If that's what they want so be it.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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CLones are IMO, not worthwhle from a point of resale and if you owned one, I imagine you would always have to make an excuse about it - maybe to the point of selling what you had and buying another :skep:

Better to invest the $$ in the real deal - Race cars / track cars are to me, about the only acceptable clone.

A prime example of this for me is, I am looking for an R/T Chrager - All the time I see "R/T Cloned w/ a 383" hahahaa GARBAGE!!!! If putting 60 bucks worth of emblems and a few stripes on a car made it an "R/T" to them, do they honestly think it would be worth more :confused: 'cause they sure are not offering any deals on them, not even as a driver...

I guess in the end, do what makes you happy - that's my 2c :cheers:
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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If it's my car, I'll do whatever I want with it.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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paint schemes are fine, but sticking zr1, gs, ce, zo6, etc. badges on it is a . :nono:

personally, if i were to do a gs paint job, i'd reverse the colors or use different ones.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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paint schemes are fine, but sticking zr1, gs, ce, zo6, etc. badges on it is a . :nono:

personally, if i were to do a gs paint job, i'd reverse the colors or use different ones.
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:iagree: If thats what you really want go for it! If I did what everyone told me I would be a priest driving a short schoolbus. It's your car, no one on this forum is making your vette payments! Do what makes you happy! :thumbs:
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How do you all feel about cloning our cars???? Grand Sports, Collector's Edition's..... You know putting the badges on them, even if they are not the real thing? Wondering, seen one yesterday :cheers:
Dont get me wrong, I have no intentions of doing this,,,, but I hear of it so much.... The only thing I have ever wanted to do to my car is put the 91 front and back bumper on,,, but my wife say's then buy a 91,,, I said,,,, huh
Brother, you got a smart women. But whatever makes you happy. I just like the real thing.

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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I would'nt make a car look to be something it isn't. A corvette it rare enough, If you would like a rarer vette, don't clone one. Because people can tell its a clone, and then it is compleatly worthless.So the money spent to make a good clone car should just go towards the purchase of a reel car. Thats my opinion. :rant:
:iagree: By the time you buy the kit to upgrade your car and pay for a good paint job, you could have sold your car and bought the real thing. Having said that it is your car and you do whatever you want. Guy
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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paint schemes are fine, but sticking zr1, gs, ce, zo6, etc. badges on it is a . :nono:

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:iagree: I never hesitate to tell someone "it's not what you think" and anyone that knows vettes would not mistake it for one
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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The vast majority of folks either know very little or quite a bit about corvettes, the former being the biggest group. A corvette enthusiast will not be fooled by inaccurate emblems, but novices could easily be misled. Before I got my coupe and joined this forum you could have told me most anything and I would have believed it.

If an owner wants to add something to their car, that should be their prerogative. An honest enthusiast, like any sportsman, would not do so in order to mislead those less-informed.

It's not what you do to the car, it's your intent that counts. I have ZR1-style wheels on my corvette, but I would never pass my car off as such. That kind of stuff can come back to haunt you .... :yesnod:
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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My feeling is, as long as you don't misrepresent the car if and when you try to sell it, no problem. As mentioned already, a true enthusiast will know if it's fake, but it also depends on the extent you go to.

I've often thought about making mine a GS clone although in a different color scheme.

Everyone talking about it being a waste of time and money, not true if you need a paint job anyway.

The one clone I would never try or even consider is putting ZR1 badges on a regular C4. There are too many differences and would just not be right.

I've seen 40th's and 50th's with the extra badges on them and I think that's fine. I've seen plenty of LT4 cars with Grand Sport badges and different paint schemes and I think that's alright. Bottom line, it's your car and your money, but if you were to spend the excess amount of money on paint, you would never receive your investment back, especially in today's market.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Why not????
Sounds good to me. And who really cares.
Takes alot of work to accomplish.
So I say Good Luck.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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I think some clarification is in order.

If we are talking about cloning a GS, or an anniversary edition, I would have to ask "why?" As others have pointed out, you could buy the real thing.

On the other hand, if we're talking about making a Carrera RS, a Boss 302 Mustang, or a Chevelle SS, maybe a Yenko Camaro, or one of the original Grand Sports (not for an instant, am I suggesting these cars are in the same class, this is just an example, so chill), I say "why not clone?" But I say this with qualification:

First off, these cars are becoming harder and harder to find, and when you find an original, it's oftentimes way more expensive than the more pedestrian version.

Secondly, should you clone, you need to be honest about your car, and tell people it's not authentic. Then again, few of us here could pull it off, to the satisfaction of purists, anyway. The creeps who create clones, replicas, forgeries, whatever, and attempt to pawn them off as the genuine article, are what make the whole prospect of creating a duplicate so seedy.

I'm glad we have replicas and kit cars. Because in many cases, such as the Porsche Spyder and the Cobra, there just aren't enough of the originals to go around. :nonod: :sad:

And I really don't think the prospect of clones reduces the value of the originals (by saturating the market-an original is an original). In fact, I would suggest replicas help elevate the value of originals, by adding to the mystique of owning a GENYOOOOOWINE whatever.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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I think you have two schools of thought here......I agree that you shouldn't do those things to try to protray another model of the vehicle. However, if it is because you like the LOOKS of it..I say go for it. I am currently changing over to the newer bumpers because I like the LOOKS of it. I am not trying to come across as having a ZR-1 or LT1 or whatever.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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:seeya It's your car do what you want... but, don't try to pass it off as the real thing when talking about it! :yesnod: I get told all the time I must have some "Big Cajones" for customizing a '78 Pace Car. Then I tell them it's only a Replica of the real thing and its really an '81 Vette. :D But to be honest if I had a real '78 Pace Car I would do the very same thing to it because its My Vette and I want to have something just a little different than everyone else! :yesnod:
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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If you want to alter your car, go for it. This is pride in your vette and the constant process of personalizing the car to reflect your vision. I love the individuality people put into their cars. They say if you look at someones hand writing or bathroom you can tell a lot about them. I say look at their car. This will tell you all you need to know.

I get a kick out of the ricers. They buy a 4 door accord and turn it into a low rider with 20" rims, a winey exhaust and tint the windows and they love their cars.

I admire the effort and the devotion. Keep the vision alive!! :hurray:
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Badges on something its not? I don't like the idea at all. I leave that sort of thing to punks, ricers and especially the liars. Posing and pretending is sending false signals, it would only serve to annoy real corvette enthusiasts who will then laught at you.....and dupe those who simply don't know (which is much worse).

Bottom line: it has to be explained - which would, or at least should - embarrass the owner. I would never consider bastardizing my corvette, and I think too highly of those who pose them like they're something else :nonod:

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