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Old 12-08-2004, 09:00 PM
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Does anyone here have a bigblock C4 for either street or strip.I would like to see some pics if you guys have any of the install and the setups.Sounds like those would be killer.
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I asked this question not to long ago and got reamed. I hope you have some k.y. ready rofl Randy
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There are a couple guys floating around with them.....I understand what you are saying. I love the sound of a big block too. Most feel that it is a waste of time considering that you can get close to the same power in a small block. I agree with you that it would be pretty awesome to have one!
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There is an 84 with a big block for sale in Vancouver. Maybe when i'm down there at christmas i'll see if I can some pics.
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tonydee64 has one ...Click here for the thread

"It's a 532 (4.6" bore, 4" stroke) in a Merlin Pro-race o-ringed Block. Venolia blower pistons with tapered pins, Cola crank, Oliver rods, Dart 345 heads, solid roller Crane blower cam. "
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Originally Posted by randy814u
I asked this question not to long ago and got reamed. I hope you have some k.y. ready rofl Randy
Why would someone complain about more power??? especially Big Block Power???

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Originally Posted by AGENT 86
There is an 84 with a big block for sale in Vancouver. Maybe when i'm down there at christmas i'll see if I can some pics.
where abouts is that vette? I'd love to check it out..
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Old 12-09-2004, 04:34 PM
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tonydee64 has one ...Click here for the thread

"It's a 532 (4.6" bore, 4" stroke) in a Merlin Pro-race o-ringed Block. Venolia blower pistons with tapered pins, Cola crank, Oliver rods, Dart 345 heads, solid roller Crane blower cam. "

I want one!
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Don't we all wish we had that set-up





And a stock exterior to boot!


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Originally Posted by vettefast
Why would someone complain about more power??? especially Big Block Power???

How do I say it... trying to find the words... Ah, yes, these will do: It's too ****ing heavy.

How does that sound?

The customization required is expensive. You better have deep pockets to take on this project... the immolation that would happen to your MasterCard would be priceless.

I would be more likely to install something like a 383 or 396 CI SBC with a blower...
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I have a 430+ hp 383 stroker, but Still The idea of a big block under my hood makes me shiver! If I had seen one already built for sale before I bought my 90 I would have been all over it!

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Originally Posted by hibernatingvette
where abouts is that vette? I'd love to check it out..
I saw it in the most recent performance magazine thats free at Lordco. Can't remember the name and the mag is at work. I'll grab the number tomorrow and send you an IM.
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Thanks for the replies guys.I remeber a few years back on the old configuration some one posted links to a build up.I think it was called the money pit or something?
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Originally Posted by JSA 007
Don't we all wish we had that set-up





And a stock exterior to boot!


WoooHoooo!!!! Bad to the Bone.
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Originally Posted by bogus
How do I say it... trying to find the words... Ah, yes, these will do: It's too ****ing heavy.

How does that sound?

I would be more likely to install something like a 383 or 396 CI SBC with a blower...
Yeah it's heavier, but you can get much more power/torque out of it to offset the weight A 383, 396, or 402 with a blower is awesome, but how about having a 532 or 632 with a blower

And Tony says: "let me tell you the weight of that big block is not noticeable at least to me. Look at the position of the engine in the C4 is in relation to the front wheels. In comparison to most "regular" cars the engine sets WAY back meaning that it is not directly on top of the front wheels. Of course this helps with the weight distribution problem quite a bit. Now, with that being said... if I were a professional road racer I probably wouldn't do it.. or at least I would use an aluminum block. If I were going to do a big block I wouldn't do a small big block because you can get just as much power from a stroker small block. That's why I went bigger. With my set up I can go all the way to a 632 by changing the rotating assembly. Can't do that with a small block."

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Originally Posted by JSA 007
Yeah it's heavier, but you can get much more power/torque out of it to offset the weight A 383, 396, or 402 with a blower is awesome, but how about having a 532 or 632 with a blower

And Tony says: "let me tell you the weight of that big block is not noticeable at least to me. Look at the position of the engine in the C4 is in relation to the front wheels. In comparison to most "regular" cars the engine sets WAY back meaning that it is not directly on top of the front wheels. Of course this helps with the weight distribution problem quite a bit. Now, with that being said... if I were a professional road racer I probably wouldn't do it.. or at least I would use an aluminum block. If I were going to do a big block I wouldn't do a small big block because you can get just as much power from a stroker small block. That's why I went bigger. With my set up I can go all the way to a 632 by changing the rotating assembly. Can't do that with a small block."

I agree, 100%. The weight is a problem, and since I prefer handling dynamic over absolute power, I will take my small block and watch in awe as the bb leaves me in the dust...
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BB is the way to go! I agree, any additional weight would be nulled out by the additional torque, what a monster!!
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Originally Posted by bogus
I would be more likely to install something like a 383 or 396 CI SBC with a blower...

Better idea in my opinion

it all depends on the person though; to me, the vette is the only true american sports car - in other words, it goes very fast, it handles very well, brakes very well, and looks like a sleek driving machine.

slapping in a big block, to me at least, defeats the purpose of the vette - it turns it into more of a 'muscle car' - one with a ****load of engine but without the suspension and brakes to keep up with the power

of course to me the ultimate display of a car's performance is to be shown on the road course, not the drag strip, so opinions will vary greatly on this issue
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Better idea in my opinion

it all depends on the person though; to me, the vette is the only true american sports car - in other words, it goes very fast, it handles very well, brakes very well, and looks like a sleek driving machine.

slapping in a big block, to me at least, defeats the purpose of the vette - it turns it into more of a 'muscle car' - one with a ****load of engine but without the suspension and brakes to keep up with the power

of course to me the ultimate display of a car's performance is to be shown on the road course, not the drag strip, so opinions will vary greatly on this issue
I may as well chime in here.... I have coil overs, Energy Suspension bushings EVERYWHERE, and a full Exotic Muscle heim joint suspension, including massive sway bars with heim links, and Baer Brakes. Honestly I'm not experienced enough as a roadracer to say if it makes a REAL difference (physics alone mandates that it has to make at least some difference), but I guarantee you that this car will handle!!!! It's not like I dropped that motor in a 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood.
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Originally Posted by aeronautica86
Better idea in my opinion

it all depends on the person though; to me, the vette is the only true american sports car - in other words, it goes very fast, it handles very well, brakes very well, and looks like a sleek driving machine.

slapping in a big block, to me at least, defeats the purpose of the vette - it turns it into more of a 'muscle car' - one with a ****load of engine but without the suspension and brakes to keep up with the power

of course to me the ultimate display of a car's performance is to be shown on the road course, not the drag strip, so opinions will vary greatly on this issue
I agree... making a car go fast in a straight line is fun and all, but the last time I checked, the 110 to Pasadena had TURNS in it. And I like taking those turns at 30mph over the recommended speed... That to me is the true test of an automobile. Hang it all out.

Don't get me wrong, I have tons of respect for those who build these drag cars that are uber fast... the engine knowledge is amazing. But for me, I would like to take a turn at speed.

Oh, I love the sound of a bb vette - my brother owned a 67 427/435hp L71 back in the early 80s. I loved that car. It didn't corner worth a crap (we joked that on the Sebring long course, that if he and I went at it, his Vette versus my Prelude VTEC, his vette would be done after about 2 laps - my 92 LT1 would dispatch it even quicker) but it was a blast to drive, and the SOUND.

but on the downside, the heat would kill ya.


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