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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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So guys Ive got another drag-strip challenge. Why my cousin wants to race me Im not sure?? He bought a 2003 Caddy DTS with the NorthStar V-8 which has 300 hp. He thinks that he can beat my 96' auto LT1 300hp vette. I think the guys crazy. I should be able to walk all over him. Your thoughts??

P.S. does anybody know what the 0-60 and quarter mile times are for the 2003 Caddy DTS???

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Motor Trend has test results for the CTS, SRX and STS but not the DTS.

CTS was only tested with a V6 (255hp) 15.0 1/4 mile and a V8 with 400hp 13.5 1/4 mile

SRX V8 (320hp) 14.6 1/4 mile

STS V8 (320hp 14.2 1/4 mile
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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You have to be kidding, the caddie has to weigh just 50# short of a Abrams tank.
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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My mom has a '03 DTS with the 300 HP Northstar and I drive it instead of the Vette whenever the weather is bad. That Northstar is incredibly smooth and powerful but in a car that heavy there will be no comparison. If your Corvette is anywhere near as fast as mine then you will have no problem giving it a beating.

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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isnt it FWD? those cars have tires on them to ride well and be quiet not to drag race so he will probably loose traction fairly easily if he is able to turn traction control off (i am assuming it has it)....you should be able to easily take him in a lighter car with much better traction
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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??? I swear I saw this locked earlier...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=990908
how about that??? it was a dupe earlier...
How bout this... Darth Vadar's C4 vs. every car on the market??? Who will win??? Just face it dude your car is slow otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to compare it to every damn thing that rolls on 4 wheels.

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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 1quik91
You have to be kidding, the caddie has to weigh just 50# short of a Abrams tank.
all things being equal, such as both having 300Hp, the C4 weight to HP ratio will kick butt, not to mention much less wind resistance....
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Old Jan 13, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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Interesting all these cars want to race you.

Howd you do against the General Lee?
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Originally Posted by deiaggie
isnt it FWD? those cars have tires on them to ride well and be quiet not to drag race so he will probably loose traction fairly easily if he is able to turn traction control off (i am assuming it has it)....you should be able to easily take him in a lighter car with much better traction


all things equal the FWD driving wheels will not be able to provide as much forward motion. even with traction control it will not overcome the physics of weight transfer to the rear.

add weight, and all the suspension slop the energy goes into before allowing the car to move, the conclusion is elementary.
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Originally Posted by kwik_ta
??? I swear I saw this locked earlier...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=990908
how about that??? it was a dupe earlier...
How bout this... Darth Vadar's C4 vs. every car on the market??? Who will win??? Just face it dude your car is slow otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to compare it to every damn thing that rolls on 4 wheels.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by longhorn_C4
Interesting all these cars want to race you.
Howd you do against the General Lee?
He wouldn't have the nuts to race a Chevy Chevette without consulting the forum first...
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tempest


all things equal the FWD driving wheels will not be able to provide as much forward motion. even with traction control it will not overcome the physics of weight transfer to the rear.

add weight, and all the suspension slop the energy goes into before allowing the car to move, the conclusion is elementary.
Yeah, on my long gone FWD drag Honda, I was using regular street tires and I was cutting 2.4 sec 60' times before I properly learned to launch it using even 1.5 way Kaaz LSD in the transmission. But now on the Vette, I could probably use cheap a$$ tires and "launch" it way better than most FWDs since I know the transmission has factory LSD and is RWD. Gotta love RWD!
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Vader
So guys Ive got another drag-strip challenge. Why my cousin wants to race me Im not sure?? He bought a 2003 Caddy DTS with the NorthStar V-8 which has 300 hp. He thinks that he can beat my 96' auto LT1 300hp vette. I think the guys crazy. I should be able to walk all over him. Your thoughts??

P.S. does anybody know what the 0-60 and quarter mile times are for the 2003 Caddy DTS???

Thanks
A what ?? The biggest caddy they currently make ?? Yeah some race I'll run the thing and have my car in park with the engine off and the keys under the passengers floor mat when he leaves the line and even with all of that I'll still drive by him. Why don't you mod your vette a little and be done ?
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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I had a Chevy Vega once would do the 1/4 in about 30 minutes Used to outrun Caddys on the take off
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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I did see an '04 Seville at the drags last summer and it pulled low 14's.
I dont remember exactly what version it was though... They are quick.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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I'll race ya in my nitroused moped... ask the forum if you'll win that.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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Now for a bit of thruth. The Northstar is no wimp. It's 32 valves like to sing up high. I'm not saying it will beat your car, but it will surprise you. Also the DTS has a 130 mph shut off. Not like most other caddy's that shut off at 112 mph. With the speed limiter off it will do 150+.
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Old Jan 14, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kwik_ta
I'll race ya in my nitroused moped... ask the forum if you'll win that.
You nitroused a moped. Kewl!!!! I need to do that so I can beat my buddies pocket bike!!! I want to beat him wearing a Shriner hat!

I think Vader is trying to expand his star rating.
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