I am curious to see what long tube headers some of you are running on your 96 Vettes. I have a 96 a4 lt1. I am concidering hookers but need to call them since I can't find any on there web sight for a 96. Any feed back and part # would be great.

 

The 96 would be the same as a 92, 93, 94, and a 95.
I have EM long tubes on my 93 A4 and I love them.

 

I kinda figured that but they always stopped at 95 when they listed the years and I am not into ordering till I know they will fit.

 

I have EM longtubes on my 96. They fit perfectly.

 

I have hedmans on my 96 but they are for an l98 and i found that out after i installed... bought them off ebay..

make sure you get them ceramic coated!
I can ceramic coat an set of LTs for $188 all tax, preping, 3 yr labor warranty, and lifetime rust warranty!!!
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let me know
thanks alot
your friend
Sean

Em makes some very nice headers and they dont have any fitment issues!

 

Anyone know specifically all of the components needed to install LT headers, new cats, and cat back exhaust for '94 A4 using the EM LT headers. I want this to pass visual as well as sniffer tests.

 

What is there Web sight?

 

Get 02 sims!
since we are 1996 we are the only c4 that has OBII. they dont use the sniffer. only if your comp is throwing codes will you fail emmissions. (here in Ga per my expirences!)
youll want some copper header gaskets, arp bolts, high flow cats, maybe even an x pipe, headers, get them ceramic coated by me.
make sure headers have 02 bungs if not have them welded in before you get them ceramic coated!
also for better performance /sound make sure you get 3 inch tubbing all the way back.

when installing headers spark plug # 8 is hard as heck to get out/put in so get a crows foot or something to help get it out!

thanks alot
your friend
Sean

 

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Runnin Hookers here...

 

Sean... It's awesome that you're enthusiastic about helping people out here on the forums, and the prices you offer on coatings to us are great, but I've seen misinformation given by you on more than one occassion (this being another one) that I just can't ignore any more. You are correct in that 96 cars are the only C4 cars to use OBDII, however sniffers are used on OBDII cars in many states. Maybe they don't in Maryland, maybe they do, but unless you know *for sure* one way or the other, you shouldn't be giving out such information as if it's the absolute truth.

The point is, people come here for reliable information. Some get "2nd opinions" on what they read in the forums while others take what we say as "gospel." EM Longtube headers, RT cats, cat extensions, a catback, and installation is about a $2500-$3000 job when all said and done... If somebody were to just take your word for it that they don't have to pass a sniffer, pony up the cash for parts and labor, and then a year later go in for testing, they'd be in for a *real* shocker!!!

If that were to happen a year from now, what's this guy gonna think? "Well somebody on Corvette Forum told me it'd be okay!" Big freakin' deal... This thread will be long gone by then, and better yet, it's still *his* fault. The underlying issue is, he would've made the decision based on *your* recommendations. If we're gonna give out information here to people who are otherwise clueless, it needs to be *accurate* and true. Otherwise, what good is this forum?

I don't mean to come across like a d**k here, but I've been burned in the past by misinformation from both auto mechanics and (other) forums that has cost me money. If somebody buys a TB airfoil thinking they're going to get a huge jump in HP, they're only out a few bucks when they realize the thing is really not good for much. Longtube headers, however, are a completely different story, ya' know? It's a very expensive investment to begin with, and would be quite stressful to have to reverse after your car FAILS emmissions. I'm just trying to look out for this guy, that's all...

In the beginning of your post, you say:
Yet six lines later you write:
Now, I know where you're going with that, but maybe this guy doesn't! It all sounds a little confusing to me...

Later, this is your suggestion:
Aside from the "sound" portion (which is purely opinion itself), can you please support your claim that 3 inch piping is the best way to go for an LT1 motor??? I don't think you can, because it's not true. That's why I'm finally saying something after months of reading similar posts filled with misinformation.



...I need a drink...

 

maryland?

with the obdII up the street from me they dont use the sniffer....I dont have cats!! and Ive passed emmissions as well as talked with the emmissions guy! I am here in atlanta!
odbII he said relys on what the emmissions sensors in the car ar reading aka the rear 02 sensors.
I am telling him to get 02 sims for the rear 02 sensors. he has to keep the front ones.

I am simply relaying what I have and what I have had experience with or what I ahve been told by qhat I deam as qualified people. aka emmisons inspectors, exhaust performance shop techs etc

as for the 3in exhaust thats what my exhaust shop recomended...aka MDMC. Think about it.. your headers come off to for a 3 in diameter why cut it down to 2 and 1/2??

honestly you do not no what you are talking about it saying all these things. go back and look i jsut shot down all your questions.

NOW of course no one should ever take one 1 persons opinion/expirences alone! feel free to chime in.
I was simply sharing and I never said he had to do this or this was the only way to do it. as many states have different emissions laws.

 

...I need a drink... [/QUOTE]


drinking is bad for your liver also dont give yourself a heart attack there buddy.

 

I am actually in the market for a set of LTs aswell, if you have some, what brand and how did install go/how did they fit and hold up? Also I am looking at LTs because I have heard rumors that shorties rob torque (this true?) and the LTs improve torque and HP combined.

 

With heads/cam, EM long tubes, Dynatech Powercats, and the right tune, my car passed Missouri's emissions sniffer test.

 

Unfortunately some parts of California do a visual inspection as well as the sniffer for emissions testion. Some put the car on the rollers for testing as well to simulate more realistic testing.

Even if your car passes without a CAT and they don't see one (if they look) you fail. Totally retarded, but thats California for you!

Ron

 

yea I would never tell ne one in cali to do this
that would suck!

is this all thanks to the govenator?
ive been meaning to ask you cali guys how is arnold doing in your mind?

well hey i mean clean air is better!!!!
we should propose a bill that says that all cars non corvettes are required to get these strict emissions inspections and corvettes are exempt.

 

Yes - "biggrizzly" is from Maryland, and he replied in the post that his car needs to pass a sniffer and visual. The original thread starter is from KY. Perhaps Nathan Plemmons can chime in as to the emmissions req's in the Louisville area. Wait! The original post said he needs to pass a *visual* and a *sniffer*. Hmm...I would then think telling somebody they don't have to worry about a sniffer when, in fact they do, is bad form.
I know the req's in Atlanta - I grew up in Alpharetta - but just because somebody at a shop in Atl told you something doesn't automatically make it relavent for everyone here! That was my point. Additionally, if someone is *running cats*, what would be the point in not utilizing the O2s via sims??? If I were running full emmissions equipment, I would want my car to be able to tell me if everything's running properly.

Fine...but you should *say* so in your initial responses! You reply in a very "matter of fact" fashion as if you're speaking the absolute truth. You never mention that "you're just going off what you've been told", or "I only know that OBDII scanning happens in GA - I can't say what happens in your state."

Your responses usually consist of, "By the cheep ones!!!! Don't get coated!!! I can coat anything for you reel cheep!!!! $188!!!
Thanks your friend...."

Read the multitude of threads on the *necessity* of 3" exhuast for better power, please. And for what it's worth, my Corvette-only mechanic here in CA recommended a TB airfoil and the Hypertech PP for my LT4 for "better performance". Should I take his word for it Sean, or should I trust the members of Corvette Forum??? I trust him to change my waterpump, but I'll leave the performance suggestions up to the experts here. You should take into consideration the *possibility* that your exhuast guy was just speaking in general terms vs. what is the "de facto" best exhuast for our cars.

Yep...you shot me down, all right...

 

omg

chill out!
there i added a () to the first reply.

because you grew up in alpheretta doesnt mean ne thing about ne thing

I am telling you what people told me or what I have expirenced
agian take it or leave it.
you can say 3in tubing dont do ne thing but until you ahve done it yourself you cant talk!
agian this emissions stuff you are arguing about is fact wanna see the underside of my car.

as for having 02 stims and cats some people run cams that are not emmissions legal. So the cats stll help out but its not emissions legal so they dont pass unless they have 02 stims.

agian any person can take what i say as me being a complete moron or consider what i say to be good info.

when I say hey get your headers uncoated then let me coat them...
its because it will save you $!!!
as a college kid with a work study job every penny is sacred to me!
So I am trying to help fellow members out while at the same time having fun talking and dealing with people who share the same passion for corvettes.
my coatings are a hobby for me and thats why I am just doing them for corvettes and mainly only c4s.

I just like to give my $.02 and I am sorry you disagree but thats ok we dont have to agree...thats what makes everyone different.

as far as being a D*=k you're not
you are simply upset because you think I being vague and mis leading well I am bing a little bit vague because their are so many threads about headers, hot cam, dana 44 etc that they just need to search and theyll find out alot more.

I give me $.02 and then let others chime in.
I am not gonna make up stuff or presume something just so i can talk.
I am simply passing along info that I feel is relevant.
headers are an expesive job especially if someone else installs them.
I did my headers/exhaust for under $750! Thats muffler elims, lts, and all welding gaskets bolts etc. so guys i tell you it can be done.
and Cf is your friend
because there are so many peoples brains you can pick!
not just mine!

agian as a good call from perfusion get more than one persons opinion and find out from the actual emissions guy if they do sniffer visual etc...
thats what i did saved me alot of time and $

good luck your friend
Sean