Question on SuperRam
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Question on SuperRam
I would be interested in any comments and advice any of you could give me on the following:
I have been looking at two options for an intake manifold for my 91' Corvette:
OPTION ONE:
The first is the Lingenfelter SuperRam complete with base, plenum and runners. The new price from Lingenfelter is $1335. A used one recently sold on eBay for $812.
OPTION TWO:
The second option is to buy the SuperRam base and TPI high flow runners from Lingenfelter and have the stock TPI plenum poerted and matched with a 52 mm BBK throttle body. The SuperRam base and high flow runners are around $900 from Lingenfelter. I do not know how much it costs to port and match the throttle body.
I have two questions:
1) How much do you think is reasonable to pay for a used set-up like OPTION TWO?
2) I am going to be doing autocross and eventually high-speed single timed trials around the track. Which set-up is best for these applications?
I have been looking at two options for an intake manifold for my 91' Corvette:
OPTION ONE:
The first is the Lingenfelter SuperRam complete with base, plenum and runners. The new price from Lingenfelter is $1335. A used one recently sold on eBay for $812.
OPTION TWO:
The second option is to buy the SuperRam base and TPI high flow runners from Lingenfelter and have the stock TPI plenum poerted and matched with a 52 mm BBK throttle body. The SuperRam base and high flow runners are around $900 from Lingenfelter. I do not know how much it costs to port and match the throttle body.
I have two questions:
1) How much do you think is reasonable to pay for a used set-up like OPTION TWO?
2) I am going to be doing autocross and eventually high-speed single timed trials around the track. Which set-up is best for these applications?
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Go with the full Superam used if available and have it ported. Remember the stock plenum will kill your response/wide range of power.
There is nothing wrong with a good used Superam and the addition power range should be what you are looking for. Just be sure about all the required bolts are included.
Good luck - I am partial to the Superram setup.
There is nothing wrong with a good used Superam and the addition power range should be what you are looking for. Just be sure about all the required bolts are included.
Good luck - I am partial to the Superram setup.
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I have the full superram set up in my 1986 383 stroker and I love it. the only difference is I have an AS&M 54mm throtle body. I race hill climbs with the car and the torque is unbelieveble.
Good luck,
Joe
Good luck,
Joe
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Thanks. So far I'm getting the general gist. Spend the extra money and go for the SuperRam. It sounds like it will it will provide the kind of torque I'm looking for. Is there any benefit to getting the Option 2 setup over the SuperRam?
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Originally Posted by Mareque
Thanks. So far I'm getting the general gist. Spend the extra money and go for the SuperRam. It sounds like it will it will provide the kind of torque I'm looking for. Is there any benefit to getting the Option 2 setup over the SuperRam?
Finding a good used one for a decent price is fairly easy. You just have to find it before someone else does.
They are around just keep looking. And if you want to buy new I know where you can get one for a 1150 plus shipping. Email me for details: tjwong@qwest.netAlso this price isn't going to last much longer, as Accel has implemented a price increase on its intakes.
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I have been looking at the Super Ram for my '87 when I get back from Iraq, and I have found that you can get the plenum and runners from Exotic Muscle for $625 and TPIS sells the Big Mouth Manifold on EBay for $380. So for a little over $1000 yu can get the whole setup!
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Originally Posted by marine1975
I have been looking at the Super Ram for my '87 when I get back from Iraq, and I have found that you can get the plenum and runners from Exotic Muscle for $625 and TPIS sells the Big Mouth Manifold on EBay for $380. So for a little over $1000 yu can get the whole setup!
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I thought there was a vast improvement just switching to the super ram setup by itself..... What are you saying needs porting? The SR plenum or the manifold??
Also, I just looked at the SR on the LPE site and they do not mention anything about extra porting. Seems they are selling the same part as EM only charging more for the LPE name..... hmmmmmmm
Also, I just looked at the SR on the LPE site and they do not mention anything about extra porting. Seems they are selling the same part as EM only charging more for the LPE name..... hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by marine1975
I thought there was a vast improvement just switching to the super ram setup by itself..... What are you saying needs porting? The SR plenum or the manifold??
When my engine builder built my 383 superram setup, he let me watch and ask as many questions as I wanted. He ported the heads, the runners, the plenum, and everything he could port, he did. I obviously paid for that, but he said it's like comparing apples to oranges. A properly ported superram setup should get you about an extra 100 horses. He showed me the difference between before porting and after. He showed me where the air obstructions would have been if porting hadn't been done. If you have the funds, port everything.
But then you should probably upgrade your throttle body because of all the extra air you'll be introducing. I'm running a 52mm TB with 24lb. injectors. I had to upgrade my injectors because of all the engine mods I had done.
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you say you could gain around 100 hp with a properly ported superam alone and no internal mods ? I didn't know the gain was that much, does everyone else agree? If so--I want a setup too....hey, what kind of price did you look at after all your upgrades--excluding the hardships from that guy that did a dishonest job..? I might be looking at the 383 too...thanks
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I was planning on putting on some LT headers and the SR soon after I get back in God's country. Then when I get together the money for some new heads putting those on and going with the LPE 74219 cam. Does that seem logical to you? Also, did you see my additional note on my previous post??
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Originally Posted by marine1975
I was planning on putting on some LT headers and the SR soon after I get back in God's country. Then when I get together the money for some new heads putting those on and going with the LPE 74219 cam. Does that seem logical to you? Also, did you see my additional note on my previous post??
Ported Lingenfelter Accel superam intake base and upper plenum.
Before you buy, ask if that includes porting. It probably doesn't. Porting takes quite a while. If you want it, and you should, you will pay for it.
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Originally Posted by chillcat
you say you could gain around 100 hp with a properly ported superam alone and no internal mods ? I didn't know the gain was that much, does everyone else agree? If so--I want a setup too....hey, what kind of price did you look at after all your upgrades--excluding the hardships from that guy that did a dishonest job..? I might be looking at the 383 too...thanks
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From: Obama=death for America
Originally Posted by chillcat
you say you could gain around 100 hp with a properly ported superam alone and no internal mods ? I didn't know the gain was that much, does everyone else agree? If so--I want a setup too....hey, what kind of price did you look at after all your upgrades--excluding the hardships from that guy that did a dishonest job..? I might be looking at the 383 too...thanks
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When I went from SLP Siamesed runners to the superram upper and lower intake, I gained 2.5mph in the 1/4mile, but NOTICABLE better pull from 4500rpm+. Was like a new car.
Also there is NO WAY you will get 100HP from a superram intake, or ANY intake for that matter, that is at a 'usable' RPM. (Miniram states 100+HP at very high rpms, which is useless for a semi-stock L98 engine).
Also there is NO WAY you will get 100HP from a superram intake, or ANY intake for that matter, that is at a 'usable' RPM. (Miniram states 100+HP at very high rpms, which is useless for a semi-stock L98 engine).