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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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I think they hire these guys straight from Taco Bell!! I call to a well known speed shop around the corner from me yesterday to get prices on some 400 parts. Guy gives me prices for 402 BB parts. I explain 400 S.B. parts. "All we have is a 426 strkoer" he replies. Then goes on to tell me they have the rods and crank I need..and the block! I ask how much for a rotating ***'y. "We don't sell it-you need a stroker crank to build a 406....How 'bout a 383"?
He asked what year car it's going in like it matters...
Next! How do places like this stay open?

Maybe this should be in C4 gen-Doh!
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Yep, it's a shame when a backyard wrench knows more than the "pro's". For what it is worth, I have always had good tech help, regarding part selection, from summit. They don't know it all be know it some.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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The secret is finding a GOOD speed shop that has been in business awhile and has a good reputation. I managed a speed shop several years ago before moving into the machine shop and I can tell you that we were on top of things. Knowledge is power only if you use it... I would rather spend 20% more in a reputable speed shop than with Jeg's or Summit, just my $.02. Like I said, the secret is finding one... If you go into one and they ask you the same question Auto Zone or O'Reilly's does: "What year and make," then you should run far-far away.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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its really tough for dumb goofballs like me who have the universe yet to learn about. i know barely enough to be dangerous and definitely dumb enough so that its hard to discern between the real men from the make-believe.

so what happens? mistakes - sometimes fairly costly ones. but its more than worth it in the long run.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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I don't expect these guys to know everything, as they are young, but basic knowledge of a motor size should be required. Sad thing is I'm friends with someone who manages their other store and approached him with it-He said get over it, probably won't change. Too bad. I'd love to own a biz like that--
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Well actually the year would make a difference as to it being a crank for a 1 piece seal or 2 piece, I believe.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 93 ragtop
Well actually the year would make a difference as to it being a crank for a 1 piece seal or 2 piece, I believe.
I hear what your'e saying, but all 400's were 2 piece mains. Again, I don't want to sound to critical, but the basics would be nice so I don't have to take their book from them and show them what I want. Maybe I just got a new guy, but it seems more and more this happens. From what I hear the owner just keeps the place open to support his own hobby. Maybe that's the answer. Frustrating, that's all.
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I feel your pain, brotha'... I went into a local speed shop here in San Jose looking for some header bolts. The guy wanted to know what brand of headers - I thought because he was just curious as there were other Vettes in the lot - so I say, "Exotic Muscle." He starts tapping away on the keyboard and then says, "Hmm...no we don't carry Exotic Muscle."

NO SH*T!!!!!!! I bought them from EM! I just need *BOLTS*!
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfusion
I feel your pain, brotha'... I went into a local speed shop here in San Jose looking for some header bolts. The guy wanted to know what brand of headers - I thought because he was just curious as there were other Vettes in the lot - so I say, "Exotic Muscle." He starts tapping away on the keyboard and then says, "Hmm...no we don't carry Exotic Muscle."

NO SH*T!!!!!!! I bought them from EM! I just need *BOLTS*!
Wonder if they have them for a 383 Hemi?
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Wonder if they have them for a 383 Hemi?
could... back in the 50s, Mopar made a 392 Hemi... why go back, who knows...
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Although no one asked, here goes anyway....

Early Hemis:

241 ci Dodge Red Ram

331 354 392 ci Chrysler Firedome & Desoto (can't remember what they called their version)

I feel fortunate, speed shop-wise. Our local one, Hot Rod Barn, is a little one man operation run by a young fellow (30) who really knows his stuff. If he doesn't know, he'll find out. His Dad ran it before him. Aside from all the good help he's given me, it's just a fun place to hang out, exchange lies and bench race. It's a hot rodder's general store kind of place.
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- so I say, "Exotic Muscle." He starts tapping away on the keyboard and then says, "Hmm...no we don't carry Exotic Muscle."
Too bad you didn't tell him "Hooker". Who knows what you could have walked out if there with. :

RACE ON!!!
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Too bad you didn't tell him "Hooker". Who knows what you could have walked out if there with. :

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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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Just putting it out there that if anyone is near the S.W. area of Florida, I know of a speed shop that will do your car from beginning to end. Many shops will only build you an engine and then you must find someone competent to install it or do it yourself. This guy will take your car and give it back only when everything is 100%. He's been in the engine building business for almost 20 years and is incredibly knowledgeable and is extremely competent. If you're interested in having him do some work for you, send me an email and I will send you his contact info.

He will also build you an engine if that is all you want. He built my 383 and my avatar is his doing.
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 04:49 AM
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I went into NAPA the other day and asked for a Volks wagon radiator for a 1973 beetle.
After 2 day's he called me and said they don't make them anymore???????what????
He still did not get it.
Maybe a 1969 383 roadrunner came with a 273 slant 6 in it ???
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by REDC4CORVETTE
I went into NAPA the other day and asked for a Volks wagon radiator for a 1973 beetle.
After 2 day's he called me and said they don't make them anymore???????what????
He still did not get it.
Maybe a 1969 383 roadrunner came with a 273 slant 6 in it ???
uhhh yeah, those take Rapidfire #5. Beetle, too!. They all do...Won't fit the rare slant 6 with the lean burn system
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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Hope you don't lose a friend over it-but I'd find another shop.
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