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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by crkemppainen
The question is this- What is my rearend gear ratio?

160mph observed
275/40/zr17 tires
6000 RPM observed
overdrive in 4L60 trans is .70
I used a tire diameter of 26". ASSUMING all of the above is correct, and that the torque converter was locked, the rear axle ratio is 4.15:1. Allowing for some deviation in the numbers, and knowing what gears are available, they must be 4.10 gears.

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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CFI EFI: I ran another gear calculator and your are right...~4.09 is what it spit out for those numbers provided.

www.f-body.org is a good one to use.

My mistake...not a 3.07...just surprising someone did the swap and didn't tell you prior to you purchasing it as 3.07 and 2.59 were the only gears you could get with an automatic.

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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[QUOTE=crkemppainen]The question is this- What is my rearend gear ratio?

160mph observed
275/40/zr17 tires
6000 RPM observed
overdrive in 4L60 trans is .70
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These numbers don't really make sense..

With this size tire it takes about 801 revs to go one mile, at 160mph you are going 2.67miles per minute, so the tire is turning 2136 rpms..

If the motor is turning 6000 rpm, then the drive shaft is turning 8571rpm.........

So rearend ratio is 8571/2136=4.01

If you were actually in 3rd gear..1:1 driveshaft would be turning 6000rpm

So rearend ratio is 6000/2136=2.81.....

My guess is you have 2.59.....the tires grew at speed and/or you were actually going a little less than 160 and/or you were actually a little less than 6000 rpms...



OOPS!!! 801 rev per mile is for 285's......810 rev per mile is for 275's

So tire at 160mph is turning 2160 rpm....

So axle ratio is 8571/2160=3.96 if in 4th gear

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by USAsOnlyWay
Are you sure that wasn't Km/hr, there are very few cars who can actually pull the true 200mph, let alone many cars passing.
I've never seen a European car with MPH on the speedo.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LT4BUD
OOPS!!! 801 rev per mile is for 285's......810 rev per mile is for 275's

So tire at 160mph is turning 2160 rpm....

So axle ratio is 6000/2160=2.777

You had to have been in 3rd gear not 4th....
That, or he WAS in 4th, and he has 4.11s. Like my post says, "ASSUMING all of the above is correct"



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I've never seen a European car with MPH on the speedo.
I can't speak for the export models, but MY car has a switch on the dash that selects between English and metric readouts. With 160 kph equal to 100 mph, I can't imagine the "pucker factor" would be anywhere near the same. Besides, that would give him 6.60:1 gears. Ya think???

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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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209mph and someone wanting to pass? I'm sorry, but I will be the first to call
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
That, or he WAS in 4th, and he has 4.11s. Like my post says, "ASSUMING all of the above is correct"

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Yep, I screwed up.......in 4th if the motor is going 6000rpm, the driveshaft is turning6000/0.7=8571rpm....

The axle ratio then is 8571/2160=3.96

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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 05:19 AM
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I come up with 4.09's on www.f-body.org/gears

Why not mark the driveline and the tire? Put the car on stands and see how many revolutions the tire makes for each revolution of the driveline.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by neat
I come up with 4.09's on www.f-body.org/gears

Why not mark the driveline and the tire? Put the car on stands and see how many revolutions the tire makes for each revolution of the driveline.

really?

I didn't know that a D-36 carrier could accept that ratio!


other info-

1st gear top speed is 60mph (apprx)
2nd is 100
3rd is 145
4th is 160

and to my knowledge, the gearset has NOT been changed.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 88-406
I pulled 195 on the dyno

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LT4BUD
Yep, I screwed up.......in 4th if the motor is going 6000rpm, the driveshaft is turning6000/0.7=8571rpm....

The axle ratio then is 8571/2160=3.96

Whether it's 4.15, 4.11, 4.09, or even 3.96, we're all saying the same thing. There is too much room for error in the speedo accuracy, the tach, and the exact tire rolling diameter, to dispute among these numbers. I finally settled on the ratio actually produced, closest to my calculations.



Originally Posted by crkemppainen
really?

I didn't know that a D-36 carrier could accept that ratio!
I don't know if anyone makes a ~4.10 for a D36 or not. The lowest *I* am aware of is 3.75. Since it is a non production ratio, why couldn't it be an non production diff? The answers are correct for the data supplied. Remember G.I.G.O.

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Still dosn't sound right to me, but hey, if I DO have a 4.10 ratio then i suppose that's one less mod I have to do then!
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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I'm not convinced the data supplied was accurate. The answers ARE correct for the input. Are you POSITIVE you were in 4th (OD) gear? Like I said, G.I.G.O.

You might take the advice from neat, and count turns.

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sniperdiver37
I have a nice stretch of I-5 in washington you are more then welcome to run that fast on. Our Crown Vic's only do 135 MPH so they tell me

Naw but there radios and spike strip catch up fast

I was "clocked" at 145MPH slowing down from a run on 18. 14Psi boost 3.42 and 6,200 RPMs in 4th (A4) Speedo was pegged LONG after I let up before going into a three car trap
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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The info supplied is correct, unless I mistook 3rd gear for 4th and then when i took it to the top or 3rd again, a week later, the speedo was 20mph off.


but for the sake of argument, lets plug in the numbers- IF i was to be going 160mph in 3rd gear at 6000 rpms, what would the gearset be?

another interisting problem.... I tried to top end last weekend and it would not stay in OD. it shifted back and forth between 3rd and od and acted retarded untill i stuck the selector in "D" and put it to the wood. I pegged the tach out at 145mph and got out of it. the tranny would not let the car go any faster. so WHY, when on tuesday night, it pulled OD clean to redline at 160mph?
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Originally Posted by crkemppainen
but for the sake of argument, lets plug in the numbers- IF i was to be going 160mph in 3rd gear at 6000 rpms, what would the gearset be?
Easy math. 4.11 x .70 = 2.87.

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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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The book I have indicates the standard ratio in the 93 is 3.45:1...
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[QUOTE=crkemppainen]The question is this- What is my rearend gear ratio?

160mph observed
275/40/zr17 tires
6000 RPM observed
overdrive in 4L60 trans is .70
QUOTE]

Since there seems to be some question as to whether you were in 3rd or 4th gear and your question is what is your rearend ratio, why not repeat it to be sure what gear you are in....

Actually why not just take it up to say 60, be sure which gear you are in, and get a tachometer reading.........

or 80mph would be half of 160, so check tach at 80 in 4th and if necessary again in 3rd......one of should be taching 3000 rpm..

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