Heads for +/-$1500??
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Heads for +/-$1500??
After alot of thought, I have decided to replace my Pro-Topline heads. Now i need to find another set of heads for my motor buildup. The motor is an all forged 383 with flat top pistons. I will be running a Superram and a 219 cam. What I need is a 64cc Aluminum head and I need it by this weekend! 
That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?
Thanks
Ray
That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?Thanks
Ray
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From: Kempner Texas
Originally Posted by Ray383
After alot of thought, I have decided to replace my Pro-Topline heads. Now i need to find another set of heads for my motor buildup. The motor is an all forged 383 with flat top pistons. I will be running a Superram and a 219 cam. What I need is a 64cc Aluminum head and I need it by this weekend! That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?ThanksRay
That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?ThanksRayJake
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From: The Black Hole LA
Originally Posted by Ray383
After alot of thought, I have decided to replace my Pro-Topline heads. Now i need to find another set of heads for my motor buildup. The motor is an all forged 383 with flat top pistons. I will be running a Superram and a 219 cam. What I need is a 64cc Aluminum head and I need it by this weekend! That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?
Thanks
Ray
That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?Thanks
Ray
Are you interested in selling your pro-toplines? I am looking for a set of budget (ie used) aftermarket heads. If so what are the specs?
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Originally Posted by hz900
Are you interested in selling your pro-toplines? I am looking for a set of budget (ie used) aftermarket heads. If so what are the specs?
I used the same guy he did to fix them and I got the same results. I have pics if anyone wants them
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Originally Posted by JAKE
When I move to new heads I'm going with Victor Jr's. Edelbrock has outstanding quality control.
Jake
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Dart Pro 1 is a good head, Brodix is making some great heads, too.I'm not super impressed by the flow numbers on Edelbrock heads, but they are still somewhat competitive. I'll have to agree with JAKE that their Q.C. is top notch.
Last edited by cv67; May 24, 2005 at 11:09 PM.
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Originally Posted by Ray383
After alot of thought, I have decided to replace my Pro-Topline heads. Now i need to find another set of heads for my motor buildup. The motor is an all forged 383 with flat top pistons. I will be running a Superram and a 219 cam. What I need is a 64cc Aluminum head and I need it by this weekend! That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?
Thanks
Ray
That means AFRs are out. I was thinking Trickflows or Edelbrock Victor Jr.s. What set of out of the box heads would you recommend?Thanks
Ray
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THE NEW VORTECS!!!! those are BAAAAAD!!!
They outflow Dart Iron Eagle 220cc heads, with a intake size of I think 200cc or something close. so LOTS of velocity, and alot of flow. I think a little over a grand for a pair assembled
They outflow Dart Iron Eagle 220cc heads, with a intake size of I think 200cc or something close. so LOTS of velocity, and alot of flow. I think a little over a grand for a pair assembled
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Originally Posted by tjwong
How about the GM Fast Burn heads. They have a 210cc intake runner with a 78cc exhaust runner. These are high quality heads designed by the General for the SBC. However they do have a 62cc chamber, but that is easily offset with the use of a slightly thicker headgasket. The runner design is such that they will produce high RPM power without sacfricing much in the low and midrange. With the 210cc runners there is still ample low end flow velocity for low end responce and performance. I am pretty sure that you can find a set at Scoggin Dickey or from other GMPP dealers.
Edelbrocks!
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From: Kempner Texas
Originally Posted by Ray383
My only problem with them is the 215cc intake. I think that is on the large side. I found these from Brodix and I think they might be the way to go. http://www.brodix.com/RR%20200.html And best part is, they can ship tomarrow.
My engine is a 415, so 215cc heads would be okay for ME. I believe 190/200 ccs would be about right for your engine.
I still stand by the quality control Edelbrock maintains though.
Jake
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I'm a big fan of the Victor Jr's...They're an excellent head and have much more potential as well. However they have a raised exhaust that won't work with some Vette headers (most notably are TPIS and LPE's) but they will work with Hookers which most people run anyway. Also, 215cc may not be a "big" port, but on most of the TPI bases I've tried to use on them they are too big. Generally you have to weld up the topside of the intake ports, then remill the manifold to have enough gasket mating surface.
-Jeb
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Well, I just bought the Brodix Race Rite heads. I bought the 180cc version. The 200cc's are matched to a 1206 while the 180cc are matched to a 1204, perfect for a superram. They should be here on friday. Keisler 5 speed just got here today! I'll be doing a write up on the whole build. Thanks everyone for the input.
Ray
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Those are an excellent heads for a "mid-motor"... They have good flow, smaller runner cross-section, and great velocity. I've built two small blocks pretty recently with those heads (it's nice to have Brodix about two hours from me).
-Jeb
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Originally Posted by Ray383
Well, I just bought the Brodix Race Rite heads. I bought the 180cc version. The 200cc's are matched to a 1206 while the 180cc are matched to a 1204, perfect for a superram. They should be here on friday. Keisler 5 speed just got here today! I'll be doing a write up on the whole build. Thanks everyone for the input.
Ray
Ray
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From: rome ny
does anyone know the flow #'s of the edlebrock 215 vic jr's. would the raised exhaust port be a problem???
look for a good head for my 396 project..
either edlebrock vic jr's, afr cnc210, or maybe dart pro1 cnc227 but they might be big..
look for a good head for my 396 project..
either edlebrock vic jr's, afr cnc210, or maybe dart pro1 cnc227 but they might be big..
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Originally Posted by mos90
does anyone know the flow #'s of the edlebrock 215 vic jr's. would the raised exhaust port be a problem???
look for a good head for my 396 project..
either edlebrock vic jr's, afr cnc210, or maybe dart pro1 cnc227 but they might be big..
look for a good head for my 396 project..
either edlebrock vic jr's, afr cnc210, or maybe dart pro1 cnc227 but they might be big..
Last year, I even called Edelbrock and even emailed them about their flow numbers, since they are slightly different than the numbers posted on other sites. The responses I received both over the phone and in email is that the posted flow numbers are the exact and correct numbers. That other benches and bench calibrations may show different numbers, but Edelbrock firmly stands behind their posted numbers.
Also, I recently learned that Edelbrock has the highest quality control rating in the industry, I believe it's called something like QA1 (somebody correct me on that title.)
I recently saw a show on HorsePowerTV where a tour was given by Vic of the Edelbrock facilities. It showed the complete manufacture of an intake manifold from casting to being boxed up for shipment. The tour also showed their quality control testing procedure. VERY IMPRESSIVE!
They've got deep pockets, too.
Jake