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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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My car (1993 LT1 6spd) is putting out an ecm code 43 (no other codes anywhere) repeatedly (clear it and it comes back) plus the "service engine soon" light indicates sometimes now. This condition is accompanied by a sudden drop in fuel economy (-20%?).

Would a shot knock sensor really cause this or do I have a stuck fuel injector (mine are stock which I admittedly shouldn't be running with the heads/cam motor if I run it hard which I did, although I tried to keep the rpm down)? Shot plugs?

Anyone had this one before?
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Originally Posted by sothpaw2
My car (1993 LT1 6spd) is putting out an ecm code 43 (no other codes anywhere) repeatedly (clear it and it comes back) plus the "service engine soon" light indicates sometimes now. This condition is accompanied by a sudden drop in fuel economy (-20%?).

Would a shot knock sensor really cause this or do I have a stuck fuel injector (mine are stock which I admittedly shouldn't be running with the heads/cam motor if I run it hard which I did, although I tried to keep the rpm down)? Shot plugs?

Anyone had this one before?
With the knock sensor unplugged, it should have a resistance of between 3.5K & 4.5K ohms. Anything outside these values, the knock sensor is bad. With the key on, and engine dead, the wire feeding the knock sensor should have between 4 & 6 volts.
To check for leaking injectors, hook up a pressure guage to fuel rail, turn ing on, observe PSI, turn off, check the rate of psi drop. Mine will hold 40+ for over 30 min.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Yes,
If it is setting a 43 there is somthing wrong
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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If it is setting a 43 there is somthing wrong
Also if you set this code the PCM will retard the timing a considerable amount. Which will cause a loss in performance and fuel economy.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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Also if you set this code the PCM will retard the timing a considerable amount. Which will cause a loss in performance and fuel economy.

That's what I thought. The economy is tied to the code 43.

Is the LT4 knock sensor different than the LT1? Is there an advantage?
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Originally Posted by sothpaw2
That's what I thought. The economy is tied to the code 43.

Is the LT4 knock sensor different than the LT1? Is there an advantage?
Yes the LT4 or OBDII (96 LT1 uses the same sensor) sensor won't work in a OBDI car. The LT4 (OBDII) sensor is 100K and wil cause a code 43 if used in a OBDI car. Don't confuse the KM with the KS, the LT4 KM is better if you have knock problems on a LT1 because of installing RR's but if you don't have false knock even that is a waste
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Yes the LT4 or OBDII (96 LT1 uses the same sensor) sensor won't work in a OBDI car. The LT4 (OBDII) sensor is 100K and wil cause a code 43 if used in a OBDI car. Don't confuse the KM with the KS, the LT4 KM is better if you have knock problems on a LT1 because of installing RR's but if you don't have false knock even that is a waste
Ok--so to fix my code 43 I can not use the LT4 knock sensor. But the Knock module might help if I am actually getting knock due to heads/cam/rockers (well, I wasn't getting any real error codes before this incident)
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Originally Posted by sothpaw2
Ok--so to fix my code 43 I can not use the LT4 knock sensor. But the Knock module might help if I am actually getting knock due to heads/cam/rockers (well, I wasn't getting any real error codes before this incident)
You got it but again you only need the LT4 KM if you are having a problem with false knock
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Originally Posted by FD2BLK
You got it but again you only need the LT4 KM if you are having a problem with false knock
False knock--I assume means the sensor is going off due to the RR set up when it should not hear that? False knock would be bad because the ECM would dial back timing?

Thanks for your patience.
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Originally Posted by sothpaw2
That's what I thought. The economy is tied to the code 43.

Is the LT4 knock sensor different than the LT1? Is there an advantage?
The LT4 knock sensors are different than the 95 model year sensors. If you install 96 LT4 sensors onto a 95 engine you will set DTC 43. The reason is because the shunt resistor across the sensor is different than the 96 model year sensors.

The 96 sensors has a 100k ohm shunt resistor while the 95 and earlier has a 4k ohm resistor.
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