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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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I finally finished the headers for my turbo project and I need to have them coated because they are mild steel. Do any of you turbo guys have the silver colored ceramic coating on your headers, and how is it holding up. I have seen jet hot coating fail on headers on non turbo motors, so I'm a little worried about using it. A local high performance coatings company said the silver coating is good for about 1300 degrees. They also have a coating good to 1500 degrees, but it only comes in flat blue or gray. I'd like to use the silver coating, but don't want to risk having the coating fail and go through my turbos. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by americanlt1
I finally finished the headers for my turbo project and I need to have them coated because they are mild steel. Do any of you turbo guys have the silver colored ceramic coating on your headers, and how is it holding up. I have seen jet hot coating fail on headers on non turbo motors, so I'm a little worried about using it. A local high performance coatings company said the silver coating is good for about 1300 degrees. They also have a coating good to 1500 degrees, but it only comes in flat blue or gray. I'd like to use the silver coating, but don't want to risk having the coating fail and go through my turbos. Thanks again.
If your EGT goes beyond 1300 you will easily fry the silver coating. As you mentioned I have seen it fail on NA cars. I just got done tuning a 40 Ford street rod with a Dart Iron Eagle 427 small block. This thing makes well over 500hp. The headers are custom made 2" tubes. Where the headers makes sharp bends the coating turned dull, everywhere else it held up. This car was running AFRs at around 12 flat at WOT. Another truck we tuned was a 572 with EFI, it turned the header tube colors all to a dull grey after three dyno passes during its tuning session. We could see the tubes glowing slightly during WOT runs. Its AFRs went as lean as 13:1.

I have a blown 396 in my C4, and its tubes are a dull grey as well. I am going to recoat them this year for a new engine build. This time I am going with the dark grey or the black ceramic, as it is good for 2000 degs.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by americanlt1
I finally finished the headers for my turbo project and I need to have them coated because they are mild steel. Do any of you turbo guys have the silver colored ceramic coating on your headers, and how is it holding up. I have seen jet hot coating fail on headers on non turbo motors, so I'm a little worried about using it. A local high performance coatings company said the silver coating is good for about 1300 degrees. They also have a coating good to 1500 degrees, but it only comes in flat blue or gray. I'd like to use the silver coating, but don't want to risk having the coating fail and go through my turbos. Thanks again.

You are going to want Jet-Hot's 2000 degree coating on anything pre-turbo. The extra heat and pressure that you are trapping in there because of the turbo will eat that stilver stuff up. For the downpipe and back you can use the normal silver coating.

This is how I got my stuff done and I've actually seen my header glow red hot in one of my dyno videos and the 2k degree stuff didn't come off. I haven't used if for a long time, but it seems to work so far.
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I am having all my hot pipes and turbine housing coating by Swain Tech. It is white sand like when it done.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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I am having all my hot pipes and turbine housing coating by Swain Tech.
Hi, does it reduce the underhood temperature better than all the other coatings? My stock manifolds are glowing red all the time ... AFR is OK.
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It should reduce underhood temp. I have not getting my pipes back yet. Base on what they advertised you can touch the pipe without getting burn othervise. The coating .015 thick sand like and is white in color.
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Base on what they advertised you can touch the pipe without getting burn othervise.
i might try that with your finger
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 02:23 AM
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you turbo guys are not coating the insides of your header pipes are you.

I have worries of the coatings comming off and getting chewed up in the turbine housing. anyone agree?
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In no way does the coating affect the exhaust turbine wheel. That thing chews off alot bigger stuff than the coating. The silver high temp stuff works fine on the exhaust housing of the turbe but due to the high EGT temps it wont hold up on the headers.

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