L98 vs. LT1
Racer
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From: Clovis CA
man, i must be missing something. my 88 l98 is a turd. 15.3 1/4 times arent anywhere near that 13.5. mines an auto also. and stock as well. well, pretty stock anyhow, its got a flowmaster cat back and a k&n and open lid. it also has 134,000 miles on it. what gives?? 
Le Mans Master
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Originally Posted by crossfire7
My basically bone stock 85 ran 11.3 @ 119.
I ‘m not sure if the 383 stroker made much of a difference, but other than the stroker and the superram and the AFR heads and the vigilante torque converter and skinnies and slicks it was bone stock right down to the paper filter… AND those times were run with a broken antenna too!
Now let's see a stock lt1 touch those times!
I ‘m not sure if the 383 stroker made much of a difference, but other than the stroker and the superram and the AFR heads and the vigilante torque converter and skinnies and slicks it was bone stock right down to the paper filter… AND those times were run with a broken antenna too!
Now let's see a stock lt1 touch those times!
Please tell me you aren't serious.
If you are, Mojo, ban HIM NOW!!!!
Le Mans Master
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Originally Posted by DocSpeed
The LS1's are an all aluminum block meaning they disapate heat better and are lighter than the cast iron LT1 unit. They are also equipped with cylinder sleaves which can be overbored or stroked without normal machine work, just change the sleaves and bam!!! Correct me if I am wrong, I think this is accurate info...
I think they run out of ideas on how to improve the latest models of the LsX series so they just went with more C.I., which is fine by me!!!
They may have went with more improvents but I am not sure on this.... I guess I need to read up on the C6 forum. 
I think they run out of ideas on how to improve the latest models of the LsX series so they just went with more C.I., which is fine by me!!!
They may have went with more improvents but I am not sure on this.... I guess I need to read up on the C6 forum. I will correct you in the CI dept. A LS1 had less displacement than a 4x3.48 block.
Reverse cooling obviously wasn't an improvement.
Racer
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From: Gretna La
I find it interesting when a particular subject comes up again and again and some of us in the hobby try to sqaush the discussion because it has been beat to death... As though those of us who have been in this hobby for a long time are the only ones interested in Vettes. The fact that this and many other topics come up again and again is because there is and has always been a constant flow of new Corvette Enthusiasts, which of course is how this car has survived/evolved for the past 53 years. When topics come up again and again, it's a good thing! In my opinion... when this happens, if you've got something positive to contribute... by all means do! if you don't, remain silent and if you are tired of the subject... and this is a tough one...
Just don't read it.
Just don't read it.
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Originally Posted by Troy.Blackburn
I find it interesting when a particular subject comes up again and again and some of us in the hobby try to sqaush the discussion because it has been beat to death... As though those of us who have been in this hobby for a long time are the only ones interested in Vettes. The fact that this and many other topics come up again and again is because there is and has always been a constant flow of new Corvette Enthusiasts, which of course is how this car has survived/evolved for the past 53 years. When topics come up again and again, it's a good thing! In my opinion... when this happens, if you've got something positive to contribute... by all means do! if you don't, remain silent and if you are tired of the subject... and this is a tough one...
Just don't read it.
Just don't read it.
Racer
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From: Gretna La
Originally Posted by hippy
The original poster has been here for 2+ years. If he hasn't read it by now he'll never read it here.
However I still think that certain subjects coming up again and again is a natural part of hobbies like this and of the always changing makeup of those involved.
If you're tired of a subject, then just don't read it. This is not like it's your classmate at school or something where it's the same exact group of people everyday beating up the same subject again and again.
Le Mans Master
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Originally Posted by Troy.Blackburn
Well, I hadn't noticed that he had been around so long, so it's a little tough to argue that point.
However I still think that certain subjects coming up again and again is a natural part of hobbies like this and of the always changing makeup of those involved.
If you're tired of a subject, then just don't read it. This is not like it's your classmate at school or something where it's the same exact group of people everyday beating up the same subject again and again.
However I still think that certain subjects coming up again and again is a natural part of hobbies like this and of the always changing makeup of those involved.
If you're tired of a subject, then just don't read it. This is not like it's your classmate at school or something where it's the same exact group of people everyday beating up the same subject again and again.
Racer
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From: Gretna La
Originally Posted by hippy
Well he HAS been here for 2 years and I wouldn't exactly call this forum a high school class. So if he hasn't read it by now he never will.
So again I'll say, if you're tired of a subject... just don't read it, and this comment is not directed at anyone specifically either, it's just a suggestion.
By the way... No one said anything about a "High School Class" for some, education does continue MANY years beyond High School and there are people of ALL ages and maturity levels that beat the same subject to death again and again.
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Le Mans Master
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Originally Posted by Troy.Blackburn
No agruement about him having been here two years and whether he will read it or not. My comments are not at all specific to this thread, in fact this is not even close to the first thread that I've read people make impatient comments about the discussion of a subject that has come up several times before and I am quite certain some of those were started by much newer members.
So again I'll say, if you're tired of a subject... just don't read it, and this comment is not directed at anyone specifically either, it's just a suggestion.
So again I'll say, if you're tired of a subject... just don't read it, and this comment is not directed at anyone specifically either, it's just a suggestion.
Some knowledgeable posters have left due to the fact of the same questions being asked over and over. They have taken your advice, they have quit reading the forum due to the same mundane questions being asked over and over. Trust me, there are people I wish were still here and no longer are.
In the 6+ years I've been here some very smart car people have left. Don't wish for something you may get.
Racer
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From: Gretna La
Hmmm...
I got a little curious... I had not noticed when I first posted on this thread that the person who started the thread had been a member of the forum for 2 1/2 years and when it was pointed out to me I sort of thought the same thing, that if he hadn't read the threads similar to this one by now, he never would. But then I got curious to see how many posts he's made over those 2 1/2 years. He's posted 7 messages in that time. So I checked (including archives) to see what had been previously posted. Not one was about L98's vs LT1's.
Hmmm... 7 posts in 2 1/2 years, could it be he doesn't spend much time on this forum? Could it be he may not have the time to spend much time here? Could we be making some assumptions based only on the time he's been registered. With only 7 posts, is it possible he is not experienced enough to know how to search for previous posts on this subject?
Anyway, I'm not trying to start an arguement... Just offering some thoughts on the subject.
I got a little curious... I had not noticed when I first posted on this thread that the person who started the thread had been a member of the forum for 2 1/2 years and when it was pointed out to me I sort of thought the same thing, that if he hadn't read the threads similar to this one by now, he never would. But then I got curious to see how many posts he's made over those 2 1/2 years. He's posted 7 messages in that time. So I checked (including archives) to see what had been previously posted. Not one was about L98's vs LT1's.
Hmmm... 7 posts in 2 1/2 years, could it be he doesn't spend much time on this forum? Could it be he may not have the time to spend much time here? Could we be making some assumptions based only on the time he's been registered. With only 7 posts, is it possible he is not experienced enough to know how to search for previous posts on this subject?
Anyway, I'm not trying to start an arguement... Just offering some thoughts on the subject.
Racer
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From: Gretna La
Originally Posted by hippy
Here's my point.
Some knowledgeable posters have left due to the fact of the same questions being asked over and over. They have taken your advice, they have quit reading the forum due to the same mundane questions being asked over and over. Trust me, there are people I wish were still here and no longer are.
In the 6+ years I've been here some very smart car people have left. Don't wish for something you may get.
Some knowledgeable posters have left due to the fact of the same questions being asked over and over. They have taken your advice, they have quit reading the forum due to the same mundane questions being asked over and over. Trust me, there are people I wish were still here and no longer are.
In the 6+ years I've been here some very smart car people have left. Don't wish for something you may get.
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Since they are both 350's are the blocks the same? From what I've seen, I'm assuming the intakes, heads, and manifolds are different. From what I've read, the distributer is also different. Does that mean there's nothing in common between the L98 and LT-1?
Accessories, radiator, etc... don't count!
If the blocks are different, why didn't they move away from the 350 platform for future/optional motors?
Accessories, radiator, etc... don't count!
If the blocks are different, why didn't they move away from the 350 platform for future/optional motors?
Race Director
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Since they are both 350's are the blocks the same? From what I've seen, I'm assuming the intakes, heads, and manifolds are different. From what I've read, the distributer is also different. Does that mean there's nothing in common between the L98 and LT-1?
Accessories, radiator, etc... don't count!
If the blocks are different, why didn't they move away from the 350 platform for future/optional motors?
Accessories, radiator, etc... don't count!
If the blocks are different, why didn't they move away from the 350 platform for future/optional motors?
Racer
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From: Commerce GA
Originally Posted by hippy
GM had a reason for getting rid of the reverse cooling. Whatever the reason (I know it, you don't), they did, so I really don't see it as an improvement.
I will correct you in the CI dept. A LS1 had less displacement than a 4x3.48 block.
Reverse cooling obviously wasn't an improvement.
I will correct you in the CI dept. A LS1 had less displacement than a 4x3.48 block.
Reverse cooling obviously wasn't an improvement.
Racer
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From: Commerce GA
Originally Posted by Troy.Blackburn
Ok, well you are entitled to your point of view as I am mine, and I'm not suggeting either is less valueable than the other. I will say this though... I never suggested (or advised) quiting reading the forum. I read the forum almost everyday, I see a LOT of questions being asked again and again in one form or another. If I open a message and it's one I've seen again and again and I'm either not interested in reading it again or don't think I have something positive to offer, I just close it and move on to the next subject. It's not an All or Nothing World and if over time some people become bored or frustrated and move on, well this too is the nature of life.
Pro
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From: Perth Amboy N.J.
guys
who cares what engine we have in our cars. we our all c4 vett owners and we help one another. thats the only thing that should matter. not bullsh**. hi pete k
regards
who cares what engine we have in our cars. we our all c4 vett owners and we help one another. thats the only thing that should matter. not bullsh**. hi pete k
regards
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This topic always turns into a "my motor is better than yours" argument.
Lets give it a rest. Both are fantastic performers and each in their day were pretty much top of the food chain and even compare favorably to todays performance cars. Each are reliable when cared for properly. Stock for stock the LT1 is quicker. Yes the L98 makes a bit more torque down low, but not enough to keep the LT1 from overtaking it quickly. Both also respond well to mods and basically the sky's the limit at that point.
Enjoy what you got because they're both great motors
Lets give it a rest. Both are fantastic performers and each in their day were pretty much top of the food chain and even compare favorably to todays performance cars. Each are reliable when cared for properly. Stock for stock the LT1 is quicker. Yes the L98 makes a bit more torque down low, but not enough to keep the LT1 from overtaking it quickly. Both also respond well to mods and basically the sky's the limit at that point.
Enjoy what you got because they're both great motors
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Originally Posted by TA
This topic always turns into a "my motor is better than yours" argument.
Lets give it a rest. Both are fantastic performers and each in their day were pretty much top of the food chain and even compare favorably to todays performance cars. Each are reliable when cared for properly. Stock for stock the LT1 is quicker. Yes the L98 makes a bit more torque down low, but not enough to keep the LT1 from overtaking it quickly. Both also respond well to mods and basically the sky's the limit at that point.
Enjoy what you got because they're both great motors
Lets give it a rest. Both are fantastic performers and each in their day were pretty much top of the food chain and even compare favorably to todays performance cars. Each are reliable when cared for properly. Stock for stock the LT1 is quicker. Yes the L98 makes a bit more torque down low, but not enough to keep the LT1 from overtaking it quickly. Both also respond well to mods and basically the sky's the limit at that point.
Enjoy what you got because they're both great motors
Exactly, Who the fxxx cares!
I hope to never see another L-98 vs LT-1 again.
We are due for a new stick vs auto debate though