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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Get the FSM for your car at www.helminc.com it has a detailed troubleshooting flow chart on how to diagnose at fix this.
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Not the screens
The odds you damaged the MAF by removing screens is not high. Many people have done this without problem. What you don't want to do is remove fins in MAF airflow passage. They are cooling fins for electronics. Cut them off and you fry MAF electronics. Ask me how I know. Its easy the mess up pins in MAF connector when making or breaking connection. Check you haven't bent any pins in connector.
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From: Communist Colorado
I've read this mod is a waste of time & shows no real gains. I cant see how much air flow there is to gain by doing it. In fact, it sort of makes sense that the air would be atomized a little more running through a screen rather than just a open passage.???
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Originally Posted by 81c3
In fact, it sort of makes sense that the air would be atomized a little more running through a screen rather than just a open passage.???
Nope.... Anything in said open passage is a restriction.... and as far as "atomizing" the air a little more, I think that air is about as atomized as its gonna get.... Its fuel that gets atomized
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Originally Posted by Powerdrive
Nope.... Anything in said open passage is a restriction.... and as far as "atomizing" the air a little more, I think that air is about as atomized as its gonna get.... Its fuel that gets atomized
Except for I still think this mod's a waste of time.
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300 dollars is not cheap plus i got it from vader86 site......maybe he knows......
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Originally Posted by ZR1 RACER
descreened my mas sensor with a xacto knife.......didnt touch the inside of it. i start it up idle sucks. CEL is on and it stalls out now. plz help 
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From: Tucson, AZ. L98-85 AUTO COUPE: 120k MILES: daily driver. SOUND OFF IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE. Ex-Jumpin' Junky-82nd Airborne-2/505 PIR: 1st ID-1/16th Inf: Recon Marine Retread. GOD BLESS GRUNTS.
i saw a couple of mafs cheap on ebay. why not replace used with the same. just get a non-doa guarantee from the seller.
but before you buy anything, do like the guys say and make sure it isn't wiring or connector related. old electrics can get real pissy and pick the exact time you don't need a problem to cause you one. you know, it could all be karma related.
have you been naughty or nice?
froggy. (santa)
but before you buy anything, do like the guys say and make sure it isn't wiring or connector related. old electrics can get real pissy and pick the exact time you don't need a problem to cause you one. you know, it could all be karma related.
have you been naughty or nice?
froggy. (santa)
Last edited by parafrog; Feb 7, 2006 at 01:08 AM.
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Originally Posted by 86PACER
Is that the only thing you messed with? I'd go buy a new MAF from the auto parts stores and swap it out with your old one. See if the car runs better with the new one. If it does, you know for sure it's the MAF. Then you can put it back in the box clean, return it, and look for a better price elsewhere. I removed my screens and it did not affect the car in any negative way.
you cheap b*stard. that's the best idea i've heard all week.
some gurus are always preaching that you're an idiot to throw money at a problem. pacer has shown us a way to do that and get a refund at the end of it all if it wasn't the part.
although, i'd make sure you can get a refund on electrics first. this scenario is probably the reason why some stores won't give you one. people put a part on a bum circuit, fry the new part, and claim it was fried from the beginning.
froggy.
Last edited by parafrog; Feb 7, 2006 at 01:18 AM.
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Originally Posted by parafrog
you cheap b*stard. that's the best idea i've heard all week.
some gurus are always preaching that you're an idiot to throw money at a problem. pacer has shown us a way to do that and get a refund at the end of it all if it wasn't the part.
although, i'd make sure you can get a refund on electrics first. this scenario is probably the reason why some stores won't give you one. people put a part on a bum circuit, fry the new part, and claim it was fried from the beginning.
froggy.
some gurus are always preaching that you're an idiot to throw money at a problem. pacer has shown us a way to do that and get a refund at the end of it all if it wasn't the part.
although, i'd make sure you can get a refund on electrics first. this scenario is probably the reason why some stores won't give you one. people put a part on a bum circuit, fry the new part, and claim it was fried from the beginning.
froggy.
Sometimes it's just faster and easier to just swap the damn thing with a known good component than to bust out the shop manual and do a troubleshooting, ect. Yep, I'm a cheap bastard sometimes.
Last edited by 86PACER; Feb 7, 2006 at 01:36 AM.
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vader let me put it like this if u ever wanna meet in person and say it to my face i think this would be resolved real quick. and of course i now know this forum will be closed but hey jackass while im at it i live in kannapolis N.C. get down here and ill show you what a troll can do 
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From: Communist Colorado
Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Autozone, 159.99 exchange, rebuilt Bosch unit.
Noticed 0 difference between screen/descreened in mine, left it alone this time.
Noticed 0 difference between screen/descreened in mine, left it alone this time.
And, I know fuel gets atomized, so will air in a matter of speaking. If you route air through a smaller opening it picks up speed. So, if you blast some air through a screen it would move through each hole in the screen a little faster, hence the airstream will be broken up into smaller parts.......also known as atomization.
