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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Just got it towed home, been idling kind of rough/low lately, but runs out fine. Started missing, popping through TB like it was starved for gas. Would barely start, but ran incredibly rough, almost sounded like spark knock. 215 deg. coolant

Cooled down for a half hour, fired right up and drove fine for about a mile, then did it again missing and sputtering then died, almost ran over some crazy guy standing on the corner who was yelling at traffic.

**I went to unscrew the scraeder valve, and gas went everywhere, never had that happen before. Screwed the FP gauge on, and with the key in "on" position only gets 12 lbs. Would this be the FP regulator? F.pump was replaced 5000 miles ago.

Thats 3 cars down and no way to work now.

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Thats 3 cars down and no way to work now.
The Z is down too
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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It certainly could be the regulator. Test it. Clamp off the hose in the return line and repeat the test. The pressure should jump to 60# or better. It sounds like it's time for a new valve insert for that Schrader valve, too.

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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12 lbs of fp? That's not good needless to say. Any gas in the vacuum line from the fpr? Have you done the 'pinch" test on the fuel lines to isolate the problem?
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Coupe89
The Z is down too
Nah, the Z is fine but sitting in storage, dont want to run around LA traffic doing estimates in it. Guess Ill be taxi cabbing it.

I have my $600 van with 211k miles in another storage, maybe that wiil get me around for a day. Wait, the belt tensioner is out on that. Nevermind.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Granted, it's probably not the FP, but even new and newer pumps fail. So you may not want to rule it out completely. Hope you get it running v. soon.
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Just turned the key to 'on" and pulled vacuum line to FPR. smells like gas, but didnt see any in there. ?!?
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THanks to Owen at Autozone in Canoga Park, guy is going to deliver a FPR, FP in case I need it, runner gaskets. Hows that for service
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Hey Ron, when my pos Accel AFPR started on the fritz, there was no gas in the vacuum line either -- but it certainly smelled of gas. I had trouble maintaining idle at times. Attached a vacuum gage to the AFPR, and it didn't hold vacuum. Bad diaphragm. What alos brought this to light were some datalogs I sent to Alvin at pcmforless. he suspected a bad AFPR, and he was right. It only had 2,000 mi. on it, so I yelled at summitracing and they refunded me in total. Got a nice Holley unit, helluva lot better, and life was good.

Good luck, please let us know how it turns out!

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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
THanks to Owen at Autozone in Canoga Park, guy is going to deliver a FPR, FP in case I need it, runner gaskets. Hows that for service
That's an AutoZone? THAT'S an AutoZone! Hope it all works out.
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Owen moved here a few months ago from the midwest...Got to talking the day I bought the MAF, took the dude to the track (hes a vette nut too) and let him run the 89 down the track, guess it paid off..

Just got:
Airtex FP
Regulator
FP relay
Sock
Plenum gaskets
$159.

Going to change the FP and relay first thing in the morning, hopefully that fixes it. Otherwise I get to tear into the TPI...Yet again!
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It was the fuel pump, took just under an hour to change.



Autozone PN# E3210-Pump
Autozone PN#FS1-Sock (filter)

Best part is, my smooth idle is back!
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What kinda pump did you put in, how many LPH?
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Iv'e done a few in tank pumps and hated every one, but i look forward to doing the vette's. Thanks for once, GM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
It was the fuel pump, took just under an hour to change.



Autozone PN# E3210-Pump
Autozone PN#FS1-Sock (filter)

Best part is, my smooth idle is back!
Damned thing... I went through 2 pumps in about a year... I swear, the replacement stuff from GM is total garbage.
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Glad you got it fixed! Gadzooks, 5000miles on a fuel pump and it's done. Let's hope this one lasts 80,000 miles.
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Nice Job. It's good when things come together.
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Originally Posted by bogus
Damned thing... I went through 2 pumps in about a year... I swear, the replacement stuff from GM is total garbage.
I got this, during my 2nd rebuild, featuring a Walbro pump thats been modified for a perfect fit in our applications....the price was right....I went with the 255LPH unit......all installed in 30 mins: http://www.racetronix.com/RX-C44-FPKG-2.html

Ron, its nice to hear the great news that you're problem is solved
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