I just converted my 84 corvette with the crossfire fuel injection over to carb. I've grown up around stock car racing, carb turning is cake for me and working on the system is easy as can be. I used a Edelbrock victor JR. intake, with a edelbrock 650 carb, with the edelbrock proflo triangle aircleaner. I cut the air cleaner down 1/2 inch on the bottem plate and another in the wire mesh. I have zero clearance issues, everything fits perfect under the hood!!!!!!!!! My question is to all the oher people that have converted to carb, with the auto tranny, where can I get the TV cable kitand what parts do i need ? The stock cable is in very ruff shape and it needs to be replaced anyway. I just need to know what needs to be done to get my tranny shifting proper and what new parts do I need and where is the best place to find them. Thanks for your time Joel

 

You should have bought an older car with technology you were more comfortable with. That said, there are TV cable linkage kits for different specific carbs. The wrong (or no) linkage with incorrect geometry for YOUR carb, can quickly cost you a transmission. Since it is an Edelbrock carb, I would start with them. The stock cable from GM is all you need, there.

RACE ON!!!

 

I read and re-read his original post and I couldn't find anywhere that he asked for your advice regarding his corvette purchase. One of these times I will read one of your posts and fully appreciate your knowledge base.....rather than be sooooo annoyed by your ****-poor attitude.

Regarding the tranny TV cable....

Holley offers 2 bolt on parts for your TV cable. The parts bolt onto the Carb. One holds the TV cable and Throttle cable housing pieces (part # 20-95), the other is a stud (part # 20-2) that you attach the TV cable to the throttle arm on the carb. Edelbrock likely offers their own version of these parts, but I'll bet the Holley numbers will work.

The TV cable adjustment is easy, and most likely will not require an actual adjustment (likely just need to attach it to the stud). Once you have it attached, make sure of the following:

The TV cable is not bound up (operates smoothly when you manually operate the carb throttle arm, and

with the throttle wide open, the TV cable is extended all the way.

Carb conversions, if maximized, lead to great performance and ease of tuning. This can represent major positive gains over a tired, outdated, ill-performing FI system. This is an appealing conversion for us circle track racers or old school guys. I respect all of you that love your CFI and TPI....they are great, great motors with many outstanding modification possibilities. For some of us, however, the Carb Conversion is the right choice. We, too, love our C4's and should not be ridiculed for moving our cars ahead to comfortable, appealing, and effective modifications.

Feel free to PM me if you have additional questions.

 

Technology you were more comfortable with? Man that is harsh. Just because it is electronic does not make it better technology. Carbs have under gone more flow testing and techno advances than any other fuel delivery system ever. Besides, all we really care about is making power. No offense, but i am tired of judgemental attitudes in ref to FI or carbs. I spent more on my TPI in my street car than I did on my racecar. I will take my holley anyday over re-programming and all of the other bs. Trust me, I am not techno scared one bit. Making a CFI car run is truely an impressive feat. I know most of us respect that, I do. But that is not for everyone no matter how much they are into technology.

 

well said. i have an xfi in my car. there are so many setting its a real bitch to tune. ive contemplated several times going to carb. i wont but sometimes i want to rip that thing off.

 

Interesting! I have also read and reread his original post, as well as my own, and I couldn't find anywhere that either of us asked for your advice regarding my post. Now, regarding YOUR information:

If the Holley kit isn't engineered specifically for his Edelbrock carb, it is very likely to cost him a transmission. It may attach and pull the cable, but if the geometry isn't correct, the transmission's life is in jeopardy.



Also, I must have missed where he asked for YOUR opinion of the carb conversion, but wanted to suppress mine. You have provided many, many, more times, the type of the uninvited info, you chastize me for including

At least I kept my comment brief and went on to provide good accurate help. MOST of your post is unsolicited, and what isn't, is of questionable value. Have a nice day.

RACE ON!!!

 

Jansenwins I just want to say thanks for the help and for the part numbers. I'm new to this site, and I don't really get the bashing that goes back and forth. I bought this car for 2000.00 with new 96 z51 wheels and tires, and it being targa I figured why not. I don't intend for this to be a race car, The archaic efi system ran but was by far on it's last leg, every plug you touched was so brittle and just falling apart. Lets face it as far as i could see why beat a dead horse, or try polishing a terd. The cross fire system was only made for a year..... come on now the boys at GM knew the screwed up and came back for it with the LT1. For the ease of conversion, I mean whats going back one year in time, besides the car is already 22 years old, who really cares what induction system is on it. I'm already happy with my intake that I promice will out flow any crossfire any day of the week. thanks again

 

I hope, for your sake, those are the correct parts for your carb.

Not quite! If you go back one year, to 1983, there was no Corvette. One year, earlier yet, the 1982 Corvette had the same Crossfire, L83, engine, as the 1984. Also, three years of "F" bodied cars had the Crossfire induction. The LT1, (Gen II) engines, came along another eight years later, in 1992. Other than that, you're right on top of things.

RACE ON!!!

 

Blah Blah Blah....

Geometry???? You do not know what you are talking about. Re-read my post and try to learn something. I made two critical points about the TV cable that are mandatory for the thing to work correctly...1) no binding, and 2) at WOT the cable is fully extended.

Stop your attitude man....you start this crap nearly everyday.

 

Just make sure the TV cable is as tight as a fine tuned piano wire,
or 3-4 will be gone in a New York minute!
I installed the Jegs plate that you can get the TV cable attachment and double throttle return spring with.
The kit for the trans was ordered by itself.I would use the factory cable
or performanceless may have them.
Some have the trans cable with the slide bar on the end .I would not use that one.
I also had to fab the linkage for the carb to accept the trans kick down.
I used a set up from holley.

 

I was using a X-ram intake with 2.25 TBIS. When I switched over to a carb I just welded TV bracket to throttle bracket & hooked bracket to back carb bolt & adjusted. I later found out Summit sells the brackets & TV cable. The x-ram intake is a Wieand X- cellerator intake with 1/2" milled off the carb flange I added a 1/2"spacer & a 1/2" nos plate. I use a 14" 2" drop down base K&N 3" filter & standard 14" chrome lid. I have 1/8" hood clearance. A 434 sits under the intake now.

 

I an using a Barry Grant 750 mighty demon

 

good info

 

Read and learn... These guys also make superior linkages for TV cables, read the article then order your proper linkage for your setup. I used one in a conversion and it works beautifully.

http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/index.php

Here's one I did when I stuffed a Chevy V6 into an old 88 Dodge D50 with a 700R4

BTW... anything you see in the picture is for sale!!!

 

Sorry to DP

But, I've gone back and read some of these posts. Even though CFI-EFI comes off alittle harsh at time the information he's offering on this shouldn't be ignored.

The geometry of the TV cable attach point is super critical to the operation of the TV system. You MUST get the right distance from the throttle plate pivot. You can't just guess, you're tranny will never shift right, you'll be playing with that adjustment till you're blue in the face. You'll have a tranny that hunts around and possibly burn it up in short order.

Don't assume anything on this it's the difference between a tranny that operates to it's full potential and one that "just works"

The system I put on that truck works to perfection, there was also a new spring that went into the TV valve for proper operation. I can't remember why it was needed but the manufacture of that system said it was necessary.

 

CFI is right about TV cable not being tight - adjusted properly, I killed 1 700 trans that way. I allso killed 1 by going from 1st. to OD missing a shift things happen pretty quick with the big motor. I cured the shifter problem by installing a B&M mega shifter. I had to open console lid up a bit more & use part of B&M cover a ratchet shifter makes a big difference.

 

The problem here, is that YOU don't know what I'm talking about.


Did and done. I just reread your post, it follows my first post. Mostly it rants about my single sentence disapproval of an EFI to carb conversion, and how that opinion was not solicited. You spent eight or more lines explaining how my opinion was uncalled for and them expressed your own opinion in YOUR uncalled for response. Just who do you think you are???


I made them sooner and more succinctly.


You want to see attitude??? Look in the mirror. I didn't start anything. I made a comment of personal opinion, that had nothing to do with you, and YOU exploded. Now 'splain to me where the attitude lies.

RACE OFF!!!

 

Your original post started with your stupid *** comment about buying an older car with technology he could understand....wow...that really brought value to the thread. The remaining portion of your first (and worthless) response provided no real info and it sure wasn't done "succinctly". He knows the TV cable has to be set up and adjusted properly....duh.

To the contrary, my post provided ideas for proper parts, part numbers, and the critical elements that must be present for the cable to operate correctly....thus avoiding damage to the tranny.

One more time since you are having a hard time understanding yourself...you start by making a stupid, full of attitude comment, then you make some general comments about the TV cable. For you, this is "par for the course" as you make stupid comments routinely. These comments are of no value and reveal your apparent unhappiness about something.

Now stfu...and go be unhappy on some other post.

 

Your original post started with your stupid *** comment about buying an older car with technology he could understand....wow...that really brought value to the thread. The remaining portion of your first (and worthless) response provided no real info and it sure wasn't done "succinctly". He knows the TV cable has to be set up and adjusted properly....duh.

To the contrary, my post provided ideas for proper parts, part numbers, and the critical elements that must be present for the cable to operate correctly....thus avoiding damage to the tranny.

One more time since you are having a hard time understanding yourself...you start by making a stupid, full of attitude comment, then you make some general comments about the TV cable. For you, this is "par for the course" as you make stupid comments routinely. These comments are of no value and reveal your apparent unhappiness about something.

Now stfu...and go be unhappy on some other post.

 

You MUST get the geometry right, or you WILL toast the trans:




Have a read of this:
http://www.tvmadeez.com/article/index.php

and then click on your carb type in the left hand column for more specific info..