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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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I am trying to do the radio shack resistor over-ride to see if that gets my car turning over again... I have got the panels away and have little idea as to which wires/connector is for VATS. I see one set of two wires (brown and white I think) that goes into a connector - then out two wires into one ORANGE sleeve. If that just happens to be it then I still need to know how to get the connector apart (I have tried many times, but it is very hard for me to see what I am doing and need details if possible).

I already have a set of the 6 different 1/4W 5% resistors that Radio Shack had... hopefully one of them is what I need... Someone said something about 3 ohm (or 3k ohm) on another thread and none of them that I have are that rating.

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Anyone? -- I was really hoping I'd have a running car by tomorrow so I could get to work that is 30min away... I hate these da*n modern cars with all the F-ing computers...
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...vats+connector - I just found this thread in general and it seems as though it may have answered all of my questions. By far the most detail (with pictures) I have seen on VATS thus far.
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On my 92 lt1 the wires were encased in orange tubing. The diameter was very small & looked like one fine wire but it held 2 very thin wires. I followed it down to a white coupling , I cut it several inches from this juncture, unplugged it & seperated the wires . I then soldered the resistor to the 2 fine wires ,plugged it back in & started the car.
After cutting the wire , hook the ohm meter to the wires coming from the wheel & measure the resistance. My car showed infinite , Reader inop .
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Look at response #12 in the following:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1422392
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Originally Posted by 4REGT4
I am trying to do the radio shack resistor over-ride to see if that gets my car turning over again... I have got the panels away and have little idea as to which wires/connector is for VATS. I see one set of two wires (brown and white I think) that goes into a connector - then out two wires into one ORANGE sleeve. If that just happens to be it then I still need to know how to get the connector apart (I have tried many times, but it is very hard for me to see what I am doing and need details if possible).

I already have a set of the 6 different 1/4W 5% resistors that Radio Shack had... hopefully one of them is what I need... Someone said something about 3 ohm (or 3k ohm) on another thread and none of them that I have are that rating.

Thanks for any help...

where in orlando are you?. i think i still have a write up i did when i did my 88. i will try and dig it up if you still need it.....
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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where in orlando are you?. i think i still have a write up i did when i did my 88. i will try and dig it up if you still need it.....

My fiance recently cleaned the apartment and my multimeter has disappeared. That is all that is holding me up. Judging by the list I saw on the various resistances used for VATS I think only 1 of 6 I have actually match something (the 4.7k). I attempted to use that but I may not have making proper contact, as it did not help at all. If possible I will acquire a multimeter from a 24 hour Wal-Mart tonight and check my key while I am there (perhaps they carry resistors...dunno). Currently I am busy with a college essay that must be turned in over the internet by midnight.

EDIT: If this doesn't fix it I imagine I will have to divert my attention to the starter or solenoid... But I'd rather have no VATS either way.

As for where I am in Orlando... I actually live in Oviedo, but am only 10 min or so from the UCF campus. Off Dean and Aloma if you are familiar.

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Originally Posted by 4REGT4
I already have a set of the 6 different 1/4W 5% resistors that Radio Shack had... hopefully one of them is what I need... Someone said something about 3 ohm (or 3k ohm) on another thread and none of them that I have are that rating.

Thanks for any help...
Just sent you a PM...
Don't do the hit or miss thing. Measure your key and get the correct resistor.... (more than likely the radio shack ones won't work...)
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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 4REGT4
My fiance recently cleaned the apartment and my multimeter has disappeared. That is all that is holding me up. Judging by the list I saw on the various resistances used for VATS I think only 1 of 6 I have actually match something (the 4.7k). I attempted to use that but I may not have making proper contact, as it did not help at all. If possible I will acquire a multimeter from a 24 hour Wal-Mart tonight and check my key while I am there (perhaps they carry resistors...dunno). Currently I am busy with a college essay that must be turned in over the internet by midnight.

EDIT: If this doesn't fix it I imagine I will have to divert my attention to the starter or solenoid... But I'd rather have no VATS either way.

As for where I am in Orlando... I actually live in Oviedo, but am only 10 min or so from the UCF campus. Off Dean and Aloma if you are familiar.
you definitely need a meter for the resistance measurement of the pellet. you DO know how to measure the resistance of it, right?..i have a list of the vat resistance measurements. if you need it, let me know and i will dig it up and send it to you. i hooked mine up with line taps so that i can switch it in and out at will........i doubt that walmart will carry resistors but, radio shack will in the morning......let me know!......ps, i am over by the west oaks mall....
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Just sent you a PM...
Don't do the hit or miss thing. Measure your key and get the correct resistor.... (more than likely the radio shack ones won't work...)
i used 'em on mine and for 2 years, not a single problem......
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i used 'em on mine and for 2 years, not a single problem......
Sorry, what I meant to say is he should measure his key and find out what the value resistance he is currently using. Then he'd have it narrowed down to what the value is. Why should he "hit and miss" with resistor values that has nothing to do with the value he need?

Yes, Radio Shack does carry resistor, but you'd be lucky if you find 3 of the 15 VATS values that will work. (If you know the Radio Shack part numbers for the 15 different VATS, please pass them on, I sure the other forum member would appreciate the info)

Yes you can do the math and figure the series and parallel values to make it work different resistor networks. But who want 5 resistors in series? That would cause major problems in the future....

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Alright -- I had ohmed my key at 3.72 (I picked up a new one at Wal-Mart -- alas they had no resistors) and have been trying like mad to find a combination of my 6 resistor types (5 of each) that equals the tolerance range. Going by the 3.74 VATS ohm for GM I saw that the range is 3590-3910... I tried 3900 and 3600 as that was as close as I got while working in the hot garage... neither of those got the car to do anything different... Now that I have been fiddling inside I have found a parallel combination that ohms in at 3.71 -- thats better than I was hoping for. I'll go back out in about 30 minutes to give that a try -- wish me luck!
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Well... to get 3.71/3.72 I put 5 100ks and 1 4.7k ohm resistors in parallel... now the car starts up perfectly. Da*n VATS! At least I learned something about resistors.
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Thanks again for everyones help
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Originally Posted by 93*Corvette
Sorry, what I meant to say is he should measure his key and find out what the value resistance he is currently using. Then he'd have it narrowed down to what the value is. Why should he "hit and miss" with resistor values that has nothing to do with the value he need?
***i agree. however, i never said anything about "hit or miss" but to measure it and come up with a known value.**

Yes, Radio Shack does carry resistor, but you'd be lucky if you find 3 of the 15 VATS values that will work. (If you know the Radio Shack part numbers for the 15 different VATS, please pass them on, I sure the other forum member would appreciate the info)
***i never said that i knew of the radio shack PART NUMBERS, just that i have a listing for the vat resistances here somewhere.***

Yes you can do the math and figure the series and parallel values to make it work different resistor networks. But who want 5 resistors in series? That would cause major problems in the future....
***i agree with this part in that, nobody would want a ball of resistors to do the job that a single resistor could do.

***4regt4, check your pm's.....
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