C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

LT4 spring install height ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:55 PM
  #1  
opel's Avatar
opel
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,236
Likes: 91
From: Pittsburgh,PA
Default LT4 spring install height ?

The LT4 springs have a seat pressure of 101 at an install height of 1.780 what would the seat pressure be at an install height of 1.780?
Dave
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 02:00 PM
  #2  
ALLT4's Avatar
ALLT4
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,137
Likes: 5
From: Howard PA
Default

Originally Posted by opel
The LT4 springs have a seat pressure of 101 at an install height of 1.780 what would the seat pressure be at an install height of 1.780?
Dave
Huh?
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:27 PM
  #3  
AGENT 86's Avatar
AGENT 86
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 20,254
Likes: 221
From: Summerland B.C. Canada
Default

Originally Posted by opel
The LT4 springs have a seat pressure of 101 at an install height of 1.780 what would the seat pressure be at an install height of 1.780?
Dave
101 lbs, What did i win
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 04:23 PM
  #4  
Slalom4me's Avatar
Slalom4me
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,036
Likes: 13
From: Edmonton AB
Default

I think Opel meant to say

Now I have a question on LT4 springs @ install height of
1.780 the seat pressure is 101 pounds. What would the
seat pressure be at install height of 1.750?
In other words, what should the seat pressure be at a 0.030" lower installed height?

He recently asked at the end of his cam thread: Ok what cam do you think?

.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 06:44 PM
  #5  
500hp's Avatar
500hp
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 781
Likes: 0
Default

The LT4 spring is a relatively LIGHT duty spring. Another .030" might increase seat pressure to 110 lbs, certainly no more than 115 lbs. Even if it was 120 lbs this would be totally acceptable using the stock roller lifters with approximately 'one full turn' of preload.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 06:52 PM
  #6  
Corvette Kid's Avatar
Corvette Kid
Large Impressive Member
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 65,811
Likes: 71
From: Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die
St. Jude Donor '04-'05-'06-'07
Default

If you're using a cam with near .500" lift or more, don't do it. Otherwise, it should be okay.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 07:02 PM
  #7  
500hp's Avatar
500hp
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 781
Likes: 0
Default

Yes, I agree. The LT4 spring is at its absolute limit at the .525" lift of the HOTcam (when installed at 1.780"). Anything over .500" lift I would recommend a better aftermarket spring.
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:47 PM
  #8  
ALLT4's Avatar
ALLT4
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,137
Likes: 5
From: Howard PA
Default

Don't even **** around with the LT4 springs. At first I thought they'd be OK but after many discussions with 500hp and others on the forum they're pretty mild and BARELY up to the job with the Hot Cam.

Get these from crane , more seat pressure and rate at stock installed height (but not too much) and they fit better than the stock LT4 springs. Also you can use all your stock spring hardware.

Here's how they fit, I just got done installing them a while back. BTW, I've made a ton of 6500 shifts so far in my LT4 car with the stock spring hardware without a lick of trouble.




Last edited by ALLT4; Aug 9, 2006 at 11:51 PM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 01:01 AM
  #9  
opel's Avatar
opel
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 1,236
Likes: 91
From: Pittsburgh,PA
Default

Ok that's what I get for posting after being up for 24+ hours. Slalom4me is correct I meant what would the pressure be at 1.750? This is not a LT4 engine or even a roller lifter engine, my cam should have springs with 114 seat pressure and the lift is 467/494 I think the LT4 springs would be a better choice than my current springs + I already have them.
Dave
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 02:12 AM
  #10  
Slalom4me's Avatar
Slalom4me
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,036
Likes: 13
From: Edmonton AB
Default

Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
If you're using a cam with near .500" lift or more, don't do it.
Originally Posted by 500hp
Yes, I agree. The LT4 spring is at its absolute limit at the .525" lift of
the HOTcam (when installed at 1.780"). Anything over .500" lift I would
recommend a better aftermarket spring.
Opel, I don't have any knowledge about the spring and defer to what
these guys say.

What I ask is that you consider how much money you are looking at
for a spring that is more compatible and whatever loss there might be
on selling the LT4 set versus the cost of the consequences of sticking
with the LT4's and having an issue.

How much margin will there be before coil bind occurs?

.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2006 | 07:10 AM
  #11  
ALLT4's Avatar
ALLT4
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,137
Likes: 5
From: Howard PA
Default

Originally Posted by opel
Ok that's what I get for posting after being up for 24+ hours. Slalom4me is correct I meant what would the pressure be at 1.750? This is not a LT4 engine or even a roller lifter engine, my cam should have springs with 114 seat pressure and the lift is 467/494 I think the LT4 springs would be a better choice than my current springs + I already have them.
Dave
The LT4 springs will work for you. Is that .494 spec with your rockers? You could use a bit more seat pressure but it's acceptable.

Originally Posted by Slalom4me
How much margin will there be before coil bind occurs?
With 1.5 Rockers...
Your installed height. 1.750
Coil bound completely. -1.1875
Gross max lift. .5625
Your max lift. .494
Margin. .0685

With 1.6 Rockers...
Your installed height. 1.750
Coil bound completely. -1.1875
Gross max lift. .5625
Your lift. .527
Margin. .0355

Stick with 1.5 rockers to provide the .494 lift, at .527 lift you're getting into a danger zone.

Last edited by ALLT4; Aug 10, 2006 at 07:16 AM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To LT4 spring install height ?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:31 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE