. At the very least, toss that filter. 
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The consensus here is most of us are leery of risking it.
Go to your NAPA auto parts counter and see the actual product cutways between a Fram oil filter and a Napa Gold filter.
Take the Fram Extra Guard PH8A, for example. This filter cartridge has a small outside diameter with a rather low filter element surface area (193 sqin), and features cardboard end caps that are glued in place.
The rubber anti-drainback valve seals the rough metal backplate to the cardboard end cap and easily leaks, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan.
If you have a noisy valve train at startup, this filter is likely the cause. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak. The backplate has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow.
That should convince you Fram is ghetto garbage.
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
Go to your NAPA auto parts counter and see the actual product cutways between a Fram oil filter and a Napa Gold filter.
Take the Fram Extra Guard PH8A, for example. This filter cartridge has a small outside diameter with a rather low filter element surface area (193 sqin), and features cardboard end caps that are glued in place.
The rubber anti-drainback valve seals the rough metal backplate to the cardboard end cap and easily leaks, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan.
If you have a noisy valve train at startup, this filter is likely the cause. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak. The backplate has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow.
That should convince you Fram is ghetto garbage.
http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
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Originally Posted by Pete K
I have seen them fail 6 or more times first hand. I would not use one on a moped, if I got it for free.
Check out my Link and please comment on my problem .I'm asking if the Fram could have caused this.
Thanx
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Originally Posted by CAJUN C4
So what Filter(s) would you suggest I use?
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Originally Posted by CAJUN C4
So what Filter(s) would you suggest I use?
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Originally Posted by -=Iron Mike=-
I've run Fram for years on all of my vehicles. Not a single problem.
I've used fram on every vehicle I own except the vette. I've never had a problem in years!
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The only filter I'd be less likely to use on one of my vehicles than a Fram would be a Group VII oil filter. I once installed one these on a vehicle and it blew off of the housing within seconds after start up. And yes, it was the proper filter for the application. Crossed it over by number to another brand and all was well.
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I don't remember Fram getting a bad wrap until the last few years. The guys on my motorcycle board bad mouth them too. I admit I never had a problem. I just quit using them because it's not worth losing a motor.
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I've never had a problem with a Fram that I know of. In other words, I'm not sure if the Fram filters I've used had anything to do with damage I've caused.
Look at it this way, how long does a filter stay in your car? usually not longer than 3000 miles. Is 3000 miles enough for any filter to fail?
I want to cut some of my filters open so I can see what's going on in there.
Look at it this way, how long does a filter stay in your car? usually not longer than 3000 miles. Is 3000 miles enough for any filter to fail?
I want to cut some of my filters open so I can see what's going on in there.
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Oh, how about this filter?
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Originally Posted by jimmers
What happened to that filter?