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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Is there anyway toe test the opti for a highe resolution pulse coming out from it ,if so how and what are you testing for .

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Yes, and I have done it. Any oscilloscope will work due to the low frequency. I slid a pin down along side the wire of terminals A and B of the opti connector. This will enable you to keep all connected as it should be. Then just probe each pin for the pulse you want, A is low and B is high. They are at TTL levels, 4 to 5 volts. Be careful not to short anything out. Changing the RPM changes the frequency.

I would not tell anyone to do this that did not have the technical ability, proper tools and documentation. Good electronics knowledge and practices should apply here. You can imagine what damage can be done. The high resolution is just a square wave of equal pulses and the low resolution is square waves of varying widths as relating to the different cut outs in the disk. Its pretty neat though to look at. You can also scope the ignition control drive, pin B (white wire) of the ICM (output of the PCM) . Best of luck, have fun.
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The bottom line is thus - if you are getting an H36 DTC, then there are one of two real posibilities:

1) The harness to the opti has been compromised.

2) The opti is dead, long live the opti.

That's it. Nothing else can cause that code.
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Old Aug 21, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bogus
The bottom line is thus - if you are getting an H36 DTC, then there are one of two real posibilities:

1) The harness to the opti has been compromised.

2) The opti is dead, long live the opti.

That's it. Nothing else can cause that code.
In almost all cases, a Code 36 will be as Andy noted -- either a dying/dead Opti or an Opti harness fault.

I'd add that there are two other possible causes, though they are far more obscure & unlikely:

1. A dead input on the high-res signal line in the ECM.

2. Tom Piper has posted here that he's seen a case or two where the coil wire was running very close to the Opti harness, and either arcing over to, or inducing enough hash into, the Opti harness to trigger bogus Opti codes (he also noted that the '92 C4 had a shield on the Opti harness that should prevent this -- this shield was eliminated beginning in '93).

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Originally Posted by pcolt94
Yes, and I have done it. Any oscilloscope will work due to the low frequency. I slid a pin down along side the wire of terminals A and B of the opti connector. This will enable you to keep all connected as it should be. Then just probe each pin for the pulse you want, A is low and B is high. They are at TTL levels, 4 to 5 volts. Be careful not to short anything out. Changing the RPM changes the frequency.

I would not tell anyone to do this that did not have the technical ability, proper tools and documentation. Good electronics knowledge and practices should apply here. You can imagine what damage can be done. The high resolution is just a square wave of equal pulses and the low resolution is square waves of varying widths as relating to the different cut outs in the disk. Its pretty neat though to look at. You can also scope the ignition control drive, pin B (white wire) of the ICM (output of the PCM) . Best of luck, have fun.
The only way to test it is with an oscope. BUT the signal can be compromised by fluid in the slots of the wheel, in addition to the electronics being bad. Either way your probably replacing it anyway. But the bottom line is you cant test the signal with anything short of a scope, the signal is just too fast. I also agree this should not even be attempted by most DIYers.
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Originally Posted by SJW
In almost all cases, a Code 36 will be as Andy noted -- either a dying/dead Opti or an Opti harness fault.

I'd add that there are two other possible causes, though they are far more obscure & unlikely:

1. A dead input on the high-res signal line in the ECM.

2. Tom Piper has posted here that he's seen a case or two where the coil wire was running very close to the Opti harness, and either arcing over to, or inducing enough hash into, the Opti harness to trigger bogus Opti codes (he also noted that the '92 C4 had a shield on the Opti harness that should prevent this -- this shield was eliminated beginning in '93).

Be well,

SJW
Agreed. I had forgotten about #1, and yes, it is seriously obsure. And if the ECM was dead there, it is dead elsewhere....

As for #2, I vaguely remember those comments Tom P. made.
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