define streetable for you
How lumpy is this cam ??
Melting Slicks
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From: Mount Vernon OH
Is it on a 108, 110, 112, 114 or somewhere between? It is going to be a pretty rough and a thumpy idle but I am not sure what YOU would consider streetable. I have a larger camshaft that I drive on the street but it is certainly not my daily driver.
Instructor
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From: Woodmere New York
not sure about the cam, but love the look of that paul reed smith on your profile pic..I play my original 1960 les paul almost every day!!...corvettes and guitars...doesn't get better then this...
Le Mans Master
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From: Phoenix AZ
I currently run 242/252 duration .55x/.56x lift cam on a 110 LSA...and with the right tune I find that cam to be perfectly streetable. There is a slight bit of cam surge down low but it's barely noticable 
Burning Brakes
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Even with a 112 LSA this cam will not want to idle below 1,000 RPM (more like 1,200 RPM). Unless you are displacing well over 400 cubic inches, anything in the low 240s, or greater duration, degrees @ .050" in a solid roller is not exactly 'street friendly'. Having an automatic transmission with plenty of stall will help with low speed driveability, but this cam is better left for an extreme small block that is way more racecar than streetcar.
Safety Car
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From: Poop land
Might be off topic a little but I'll ask it anyways.
How do 346" LS1s get away with mega sized 220 cc heads, cam duration as high as 250 @ .050", 0.6xx" lift and lowish 112 LSAs and still remain streetable with about 500 rwhp??????????????
Why wouldn't this be as streetable in a regular SBC with the same setup?????
How do 346" LS1s get away with mega sized 220 cc heads, cam duration as high as 250 @ .050", 0.6xx" lift and lowish 112 LSAs and still remain streetable with about 500 rwhp??????????????
Why wouldn't this be as streetable in a regular SBC with the same setup?????
Pro
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From: Akron Pa
248/252 hyd roller 110 lsa with 625/640 lift in a 383
magnaflow exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARcUkIwvvQ
flowmaster exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSK4HnhDKg
magnaflow exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARcUkIwvvQ
flowmaster exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSK4HnhDKg
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Le Mans Master
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From: Portland Oregon
Originally Posted by kopbet89c4
Might be off topic a little but I'll ask it anyways.
How do 346" LS1s get away with mega sized 220 cc heads, cam duration as high as 250 @ .050", 0.6xx" lift and lowish 112 LSAs and still remain streetable with about 500 rwhp??????????????
Why wouldn't this be as streetable in a regular SBC with the same setup?????
How do 346" LS1s get away with mega sized 220 cc heads, cam duration as high as 250 @ .050", 0.6xx" lift and lowish 112 LSAs and still remain streetable with about 500 rwhp??????????????
Why wouldn't this be as streetable in a regular SBC with the same setup?????
Le Mans Master
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From: somers, ny
I've got a similar cam in a 406 (246/246 112lsa) and it's on the edge. As mentioned one persons streetable is another persons race only, so this is somewhat subjective but:
Mine has 12-14 inches of vacuum at 950 where it idles....barely enough to maintain the power brakes in traffic. The lope is not terrible at all, but it does have some cam surge at under 2000 with the converter locked. The cam also tricks my simple minded 85 computer into thinking its lean at low rpms and it dumps as much fuel as it can. I'm sure some of these issues could be cleaned up with a more sufisticated computer and tuning, but this has been my experience with a cam this size on the street.
Mine has 12-14 inches of vacuum at 950 where it idles....barely enough to maintain the power brakes in traffic. The lope is not terrible at all, but it does have some cam surge at under 2000 with the converter locked. The cam also tricks my simple minded 85 computer into thinking its lean at low rpms and it dumps as much fuel as it can. I'm sure some of these issues could be cleaned up with a more sufisticated computer and tuning, but this has been my experience with a cam this size on the street.
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Drifting
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From: Kewaskum Wisconsin
Originally Posted by padrummer1
248/252 hyd roller 110 lsa with 625/640 lift in a 383
magnaflow exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARcUkIwvvQ
flowmaster exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSK4HnhDKg
magnaflow exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARcUkIwvvQ
flowmaster exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSK4HnhDKg
Sounds a bit more aggresive than a 219 superram combo
Team Owner
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From: OBAMA IS HITLER
That's definitely music to my ears
As a side note, the sound clips remind me once again of my disdain for the flowmaster sound. the magnaflows sound a helluva LOT better
PRS? I wish I had one. Used to have a '77 Les Paul goldtop, loved it (and it was heavy).
As a side note, the sound clips remind me once again of my disdain for the flowmaster sound. the magnaflows sound a helluva LOT better
PRS? I wish I had one. Used to have a '77 Les Paul goldtop, loved it (and it was heavy).
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Drifting
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From: Kewaskum Wisconsin
Originally Posted by cakes751
not sure about the cam, but love the look of that paul reed smith on your profile pic..I play my original 1960 les paul almost every day!!...corvettes and guitars...doesn't get better then this...
There only ~5000 total made, and the green tops were few and far between. I think there were only ~100 of them produced. Probably looking at $8000 on up for one. A couple years ago I sold one of my purple tops for $5100. Not too bad since I paid $1600 for it brand new.
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Drifting
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From: Kewaskum Wisconsin
Originally Posted by padrummer1
248/252 hyd roller 110 lsa with 625/640 lift in a 383
magnaflow exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARcUkIwvvQ
flowmaster exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSK4HnhDKg
magnaflow exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TARcUkIwvvQ
flowmaster exhaust:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSK4HnhDKg
Pro
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Akron Pa
Originally Posted by Hole-Shot
Padrummer, what kind of HP/Torque are you putting out with that set-up? Ever take it down the 1320?
carb conversion I only have about 500 miles on it so far and have not made any passes down the 1320 yet. I think it will have to be next spring before I get the chance to run it.
The Flowmasters were on the car when I bought it 3 years ago. The Magnaflows are brand new and I love them.
I think it should run pretty well...
Safety Car
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From: Houston TX
Originally Posted by Hole-Shot
How much of a lope would this have Comp Cams solid roller 248-248 630-630 lift w/1.65RR (mini-ram on top)
Is this a "streetable" cam ??
Is this a "streetable" cam ??
Now there are a couple of things that allow this to happen.
1) running a 4" stroke
2) aftermarket tuning with wbO2
3) ZF trans
4) very efficient top-end (C4SP, AFR race heads, MB tb)
5) FI
I am not quite sure how to post up a video clip, but I would be willing to learn. I have a mini-DVD camcorder, if that helps.
Aaron
Le Mans Master
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From: Kempner Texas
Originally Posted by Hole-Shot
How much of a lope would this have Comp Cams solid roller 248-248 630-630 lift w/1.65RR (mini-ram on top)
Is this a "streetable" cam ??
Is this a "streetable" cam ??
Jake