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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruff Rider
Hey Strick, what did you spend on the Mez HD & the harness ???
I think it was around $215 +/- from Thunder Racing. But that was 4-5 years ago. I didn't do the harnes, I made my own.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rickreeves1
That makes sense. I've also seen before and after dyno charts going from stock to EWP that gained 5-10hp. Maybe the power drain is less when coming from the electrical system?
While the addition of an electrical device results in an additional power drain, it doesn't mean that you'll have the same parasitic mechanical hp loss as with a mechanical pump. Doesn't an alternator require x amount of horsepower to drive, period? To rephrase, regardless of the electrical load on the system, it will only ever take x horsepower to drive the alternator, because the load the alternator presents to the engine will always be the same?

Am I out in left field on this one?
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TorchRedRob
While the addition of an electrical device results in an additional power drain, it doesn't mean that you'll have the same parasitic mechanical hp loss as with a mechanical pump. Doesn't an alternator require x amount of horsepower to drive, period? To rephrase, regardless of the electrical load on the system, it will only ever take x horsepower to drive the alternator, because the load the alternator presents to the engine will always be the same?

Am I out in left field on this one?
The load on an alternator does increase with electrical demand. The high capacity units on modern cars especially are actually quite a load on the engine. Under higher load demands, it's pull on the engine is more than that of the A/C compressor. It's not uncommon for drag racers and such to have switches to shut them off during a run. But at 8 amps constant for the HD Meziere, it's still substantially more efficient than a stock mechanical pump, particularly so as engine speed climbs.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
The load on an alternator does increase with electrical demand. The high capacity units on modern cars especially are actually quite a load on the engine. Under higher load demands, it's pull on the engine is more than that of the A/C compressor. It's not uncommon for drag racers and such to have switches to shut them off during a run. But at 8 amps constant for the HD Meziere, it's still substantially more efficient than a stock mechanical pump, particularly so as engine speed climbs.
Yeah, ok - I guess I can rationalize it if I remember to think of an alternator as a "reverse-flow" electric motor.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Strick
I went to the electric water pump and this is how I did it:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...=231&TopicID=2

I know it's long, but I tried to cover everything. Our Tech Tips on our forum has a lot of good ideas and techniques.
Hey Strick, I got a few questions for you ?
1. Do you think it's a good idea to up-grade the Damper at this point ?
If so what one would you recommend ?
2. Is there a better opti-spark option then the OEM ?
3. What about a Cloyes Tru-Roller Timing set ?

I truly enjoyed the article you wrote-up, thanks.....
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