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Old Dec 26, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Will you pay to have it shipped via car carrier to my house?

Here is my offer to any and all challengers. If anyone can remove or install a stock super ram plenum, runners, manifold and stock associated hardware in 1/2 hour or less, they can have my 85 Corvette. And I mean the s/r combo must be totally stock. No slotted or modified screws, nothing.

Scorp. not only will I ship my car to you if you can pull or install a complete stock super ram system and associated hardware in an 1/2 hour, if you ever come to Chicago for vacation i'll hand you the keys to my supra with a full tank of gas for you to enjoy as long as you stay.


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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Here is my offer to any and all challengers. If anyone can remove or install a stock super ram plenum, runners, manifold and stock associated hardware in 1/2 hour or less, they can have my 85 Corvette. And I mean the s/r combo must be totally stock. No slotted or modified screws, nothing.

Scorp. not only will I ship my car to you if you can pull or install a complete stock super ram system and associated hardware in an 1/2 hour, if you ever come to Chicago for vacation i'll hand you the keys to my supra with a full tank of gas for you to enjoy as long as you stay.


Any honest person that has installed a SR will tell you it is a tough install. The guy that I bought my SR from has installed and sold hundreds of units. He said it takes him 4 hours and he has more experience than any of us.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tntcorvette
Here is my offer to any and all challengers. If anyone can remove or install a stock super ram plenum, runners, manifold and stock associated hardware in 1/2 hour or less, they can have my 85 Corvette. And I mean the s/r combo must be totally stock. No slotted or modified screws, nothing.

Scorp. not only will I ship my car to you if you can pull or install a complete stock super ram system and associated hardware in an 1/2 hour, if you ever come to Chicago for vacation i'll hand you the keys to my supra with a full tank of gas for you to enjoy as long as you stay.



This is almost worth de-modding my SR center bolts back to normal!
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scorp508
This is almost worth de-modding my SR center bolts back to normal!

No way that anyone can install a superram in 30 minutes.
Can't be done.

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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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No way that anyone can install a superram in 30 minutes.
Can't be done.

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Vic, he said install or remove.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scorp508
Vic, he said install or remove.

Scorp,
You are trying to take advantage of a very frustrated SR installer. I have been there and removing is much easier than installing.
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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Scorp,
You are trying to take advantage of a very frustrated SR installer. I have been there and removing is much easier than installing.
I must admit, 85's do not require an emissions test in MA, hence my desire!
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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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I could take it off in a half hour but not install it in that time.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Corvette0096
I could take it off in a half hour but not install it in that time.

I had to jump in here as well. I admit the fist time I installed the SR it took the better part of a weekend, but after owning one for a few years I could easily remove in under 30 mins and probably install in under 40. I used remove and install it all the time just to do dumb stuff. Only tricks I had at the time were the slotted bolts and I only had those for the inner 4 middle bolts. I have since switched to a 94 LT1 car and my new fast skill is the opti replacement. I can do them pretty fast. Only had to do mine once though at 105,000.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Corvette0096 and LPDesRoche,

I am refering to totally stock super ram and stock, unmodified hardward. It is impossible. If I remember correctly there are 16 small screws holding the runners to the upper plenum. Even at 1 screw per minute, which is impossible, thats 16 minutes gone. 14 minutes left to pull everything off.

Somebody please film a 1/2 super ram removal and post it here and make me a believer!

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i thought i was about to watch a friend with a SR remove it in under a minute...







with a sledge hammer...

ive helped R&R SR manifolds about 5-6 times... and because of that, i`ll never own one...
they may perform well (when they arent leaking), but working on or even sometimes around one is just awful...

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Originally Posted by tntcorvette
If I remember correctly there are 16 small screws holding the runners to the upper plenum.
You're about right on the #s, but each one does not take a minute. You can probably get those out in 5 minutes or less with a simple 1/4" ratcheting wrench.
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Originally Posted by scorp508
You're about right on the #s, but each one does not take a minute. You can probably get those out in 5 minutes or less with a simple 1/4" ratcheting wrench.
That's what air tools are for!!!!!
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BigLee
i thought i was about to watch a friend with a SR remove it in under a minute...

with a sledge hammer...

ive helped R&R SR manifolds about 5-6 times... and because of that, i`ll never own one...
they may perform well (when they arent leaking), but working on or even sometimes around one is just awful...

Maybe I am lucky or I am just that damn good but I have never had a vacuum leak with a SR. I have never used any type of gasket sealant on any part of it except the lower intake to head surface area as well. Both of mine were older castings, not sure if they were made better back then or what. Never any leak not once.

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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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im taking the approach tequilaboy did and use studs for the plenum, and hen use kep nuts on the runners, i got the kep nuts in but now just waiting on the studs, and also since everyone else has better luck with no using any sealent im going to leave the gaskets dry as well
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GrtWht91
so i changed out my stock tpi intake for the superram, manifold, runners, and plenum, stock heads/cam, just bolts on such as TB, headers, the tricks here and there...the car has 3.07 gears...for some reason the car feels slower, it feels like dead spots all through first and second gear, from a roll it feels stronger but from stop to 1/4 mile it feels terrible, i have a feeling its due to a vacuum leak due to the installtion, any ideas or previous experiences, thanks...
Bet its a vacuum leak in the SR. Been there, done that. If its an Accel unit it may be a maching problem. On mine they milled an EGR slot beyond the gasket line. Had to do the install twice. Not fun but the mainfold with the right cam is a torque monster.
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Originally Posted by Vetracr
Bet its a vacuum leak in the SR. Been there, done that. If its an Accel unit it may be a maching problem. On mine they milled an EGR slot beyond the gasket line. Had to do the install twice. Not fun but the mainfold with the right cam is a torque monster.

yeah, summer project is cam/heads...its coming soon
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 12:03 AM
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GrtWht91, I hope we have not discouraged you from fixing the super ram....who knows what the problem is. I say try and get it resolved before you ditch the manifold. Good luck!
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GrtWht91, I hope we have not discouraged you from fixing the super ram....who knows what the problem is. I say try and get it resolved before you ditch the manifold. Good luck!
no not at all, tomarrow im going to play with the timing and as soon as the studs come in im going to pull the plenum and check it out, the way tequilaboy has explained it to me i think it will be easier in the end...only time will tell
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just a little update, i pulled the plenum off, alot easier coming off, im installing it back like teguilaboy was telling me, put studs into the plenum, drill the runner holes to about 5/16, then use kep nuts to tighten from the bottom, except i found the problem, two bolts on the inside passenger runner where stripped out, i had to tap them to 5/16 -18 and then get two bigger studs, i got the plenum layin on top but haven't put the gaskets on tighten the bolts, thats this weekend's project...
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