Air Pump Eliminator Kit......
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Air Pump Eliminator Kit......
I was looking at the Eliminator kit and see that it is very simple design. I would imagine that someone has measurements off one of these. If that is the case could someone email or post the design so I can have one made. I work with a guy that has a machine shop and he said he would wip one out for me. Thanks.
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (jcazin)
The point is to save everyone money, and to help everyone else out. I would be more than willing to help you out when I can. If I can save you 200 bucks on something I can figure out a way around, that's 200 you can spend elsewhere. In the end we all win. That's what this is all about. Helping others that may not have 200 bucks but would like to make mods. Don't get me wrong I do have 200 bucks, but don't want to spend it one something that is only worth 25. That's why I have money. Just my .02.
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (jcazin)
no problem- just pay me 1/2 what I spent, and I'll send you everything you need.
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (Glock'94)
it's not like you've got a patent on it or somethin...
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (Red 90 L98 Coupe)
it's not like you've got a patent on it or somethin...
Careful guys, I think the manufacturer does...
Careful guys, I think the manufacturer does...
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (Glock'94)
We might still have to have permission though...
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From: Big D Tx
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit......
sorry but you cant "own" a metal bar and a pulley and say that no one else can make it. thats why there are varieties in exaust, intake, etc. dynomax are the same thing as borlas just cheaper. flo-pro's are the same thing as flowmaster, just cheaper. several companies make a version of the BPP vortex intake.
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (88L98)
We might still have to have permission though...
nope. no one can stop you from making anything. besides, all you need to do is remove the pump with all its crap, and get a shorter belt
nope. no one can stop you from making anything. besides, all you need to do is remove the pump with all its crap, and get a shorter belt
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (88L98)
88L98, I think you have posted this "solution" of using a shorter belt before. I have a '90, and for the life of me I cannot see how to make that work. If you can post the routing diagram or picture, it would be *greatly appreciated* by MANY CF members. :cheers:
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (h rocks)
88L98, I think you have posted this "solution" of using a shorter belt before. I have a '90, and for the life of me I cannot see how to make that work. If you can post the routing diagram or picture, it would be *greatly appreciated* by MANY CF members. :cheers:
You could leave your air pump on if looks are not an issue. If you've removed the plumbing, there isn't much resistance in the pump itself.
[Modified by TJR, 11:51 PM 10/16/2001]
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (h rocks)
On the 88 ~90 you can't get away with this, if you want to eliminate the air pump you must put something in it's place. What I did, is eliminated many things like A/C, air pump and just tonight I eliminated the belt tensioner. I made my own eliminator bracket at work with couple pieces of aluminum and pulley that I got from local auto store. I would be happy to share this with you guys, but I don't have way to post pictures. If there's anyone in the Chicago area with digital camera and would willing to take and post those pictures, I would be more than willing to share my idea with you.
I eliminated the belt tensioner by making adjustable bracket from my eliminator bracket to the distributor. Distributor is the one that's adjustable/moving.
Let me know!
Ziggy
I eliminated the belt tensioner by making adjustable bracket from my eliminator bracket to the distributor. Distributor is the one that's adjustable/moving.
Let me know!
Ziggy
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From: Big D Tx
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (Glock'94)
Well, I meant if you were to start selling it or something...
i just went out and looked at it, it seems i was wrong. i knew you could do it on a tpi f-body by rerouting the belt with a shorter one because ive done it, but the belt comming of the altenator to the water pump with no air pump would rub the power steering pulley on the vette. i still have my air pump, and it was kinda dim where i was looking. ill have a few hours before i have to go out of town 2morrow, ill take a look at it and see if i can figure anything else out.
[Modified by 88L98, 12:25 AM 10/17/2001]
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (88L98)
You dont need measurements from any aftermarket kits...just take them from your car now.
Measure the length of the Smog pump brackets, height of the pulley and locations of the bolt holes into the cylinder head and you can make your own.
You can even remove the smog pump and brackets and set it on a work bench and custom or design a new bracket(s) to your style.That includes the top piece that holds the alternator in place.
Take it off, set it down and measure and design away.
Where did you think they got the aftermarket design in the first place?
The answer is what you have now so you can retain the same belt and etc.
:)
[Modified by Bill's86Coupe, 3:42 AM 10/17/2001]
Measure the length of the Smog pump brackets, height of the pulley and locations of the bolt holes into the cylinder head and you can make your own.
You can even remove the smog pump and brackets and set it on a work bench and custom or design a new bracket(s) to your style.That includes the top piece that holds the alternator in place.
Take it off, set it down and measure and design away.
Where did you think they got the aftermarket design in the first place?
The answer is what you have now so you can retain the same belt and etc.
:)
[Modified by Bill's86Coupe, 3:42 AM 10/17/2001]
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (88L98)
Well I removed the guts (fins) from the air pump and capped the hole in the mean time. I also removed all the hoses, ect from the engine compartment. As soon as I get a chance to go to the dealership I will remove the metal hoses that go to underside of the car. I notices that the one area were all the hoses converge had some wires hooked to it. I'm sure it is some sort of vlave that directs the air....What should I do with the wires? No codes were sent with them disconnected. :confused: Perhaps I should just leave them alone. Any input? I did have one reply and the guy said he would give me the measurements. I will ask him if it is alright to post them here, if he says it is alright I will. Glad to see someone was willing to help out. See you all later.
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Re: Air Pump Eliminator Kit...... (ski_dwn_it)
I think the kit BPP makes is great. If no one supports those that have taken the time to produce things for us, then no wonder nothing else will come out for the C4 except home grown. Considering how much some stupid OEM stuff costs, I didn't think the price was that bad?