Traction Control: ASR, can you modify the programming?
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
There is nothing within the 93 Tuner Cat program. I emailed them to see if it can be put in etc.
Turing the ASR works too, but it would be nice to have it on, in case....
Turing the ASR works too, but it would be nice to have it on, in case....
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
Tuner Cat sent me the update. If anyone wants it, pm me your email and I will send it to you. They sent it to me for an update to my 93 system. Steve
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Don't give away his software. If anybody who actually purchased the program needs an update they can just ask him for it.
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
It allows timing adjusmtents. I only looked at it for a split second, but the timing retard is up to 16 degrees in default on the tunercat. That may just be nothing, and not actual numbers GM uses, but it feels like it when it hits on the 93. It falls on its face pretty hard.
Le Mans Master
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He is what my 94 is set to. I did make some changes to it at one stage but very small ones, and im not sure if they are on this .bin or if its the stock table 
Hope you can all read the numbers on that.....
Hope you can all read the numbers on that.....
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
Explain how these numbers work. Do they retard it back to this number written in there in the table? ie at 2800 rpm if traction control is needed it goes back to 33 degrees BTDC
Melting Slicks
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I pulled about 10-15 degrees out... in other words subtracted from the numbers listed...
It means at 2800 rpms it will pull up too 33 degrees.. So to get it to where you have less traction control applied you subtract the number. If you want more traction control you add to the number.
It will allow you to punch it more " before it starts to pull it away...
Those numbers are similar to what i have on my 96...
Mo
It means at 2800 rpms it will pull up too 33 degrees.. So to get it to where you have less traction control applied you subtract the number. If you want more traction control you add to the number.
It will allow you to punch it more " before it starts to pull it away...
Those numbers are similar to what i have on my 96...
Mo
Last edited by Mo_Bandy; Feb 15, 2007 at 01:33 AM.
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Le Mans Master
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From: South Carolina
St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
I pulled about 10-15 degrees out... in other words subtracted from the numbers listed...
It means at 2800 rpms it will pull up too 33 degrees.. So to get it to where you have less traction control applied you subtract the number. If you want more traction control you add to the number.
It will allow you to punch it more " before it starts to pull it away...
Those numbers are similar to what i have on my 96...
Mo
It means at 2800 rpms it will pull up too 33 degrees.. So to get it to where you have less traction control applied you subtract the number. If you want more traction control you add to the number.
It will allow you to punch it more " before it starts to pull it away...
Those numbers are similar to what i have on my 96...
Mo
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Yeah mate, give that a go to start with, it you find its not cutting down enough add some retard back on, or if you feel that its still taking too much power off you then take some more retard out of it.
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
No what it means is that is how much retard it can use(the number in the ubove tables will be subtracted from the total advance at the given time), so at 2,800rpm it can cut the timing by 33*, so depending on what your advance is at that point, you could be back down somewhere between 2-10* advance. Which explains the "falling on its face".
Yeah mate, give that a go to start with, it you find its not cutting down enough add some retard back on, or if you feel that its still taking too much power off you then take some more retard out of it.
Yeah mate, give that a go to start with, it you find its not cutting down enough add some retard back on, or if you feel that its still taking too much power off you then take some more retard out of it.
Melting Slicks
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From: Fremont Oh
Steve,
We all started "somewhere..."... don't sweat it... it is better to be doubly sure than mess sommething ups... Case, filled in the blanks.
Let us know how it goes. if you like I can give you what I have programmed in.. but I'm perhaps running a little more power so you may not want to pull as much as I did..
regards,
Mo
We all started "somewhere..."... don't sweat it... it is better to be doubly sure than mess sommething ups... Case, filled in the blanks.
Let us know how it goes. if you like I can give you what I have programmed in.. but I'm perhaps running a little more power so you may not want to pull as much as I did..
regards,
Mo
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Le Mans Master
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From: South Carolina
St. Jude Donor '03 & '05
Steve,
We all started "somewhere..."... don't sweat it... it is better to be doubly sure than mess sommething ups... Case, filled in the blanks.
Let us know how it goes. if you like I can give you what I have programmed in.. but I'm perhaps running a little more power so you may not want to pull as much as I did..
regards,
Mo
We all started "somewhere..."... don't sweat it... it is better to be doubly sure than mess sommething ups... Case, filled in the blanks.
Let us know how it goes. if you like I can give you what I have programmed in.. but I'm perhaps running a little more power so you may not want to pull as much as I did..
regards,
Mo
.I will try the tune this weekend with the ASR function toned downa bit.
I know the power will be backed off with the timing it adjusts, but will it affect the brakes and throttle kick back based on the changes?
I also backed the timing off quite a bit, to start.
Pro
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Hey mo, you have just a "little" more power .
I will try the tune this weekend with the ASR function toned downa bit.
I know the power will be backed off with the timing it adjusts, but will it affect the brakes and throttle kick back based on the changes?
I also backed the timing off quite a bit, to start.
.I will try the tune this weekend with the ASR function toned downa bit.
I know the power will be backed off with the timing it adjusts, but will it affect the brakes and throttle kick back based on the changes?
I also backed the timing off quite a bit, to start.
Scott
Melting Slicks
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From: Fremont Oh
Steve,
Max mentioned what I said earlier in the post , if you totally turn off the ASR it acts weird...
By pulling the timing in the ASR parameter the throttle and brake effect will be less...
I did not totally pull mine as if I valet the car of someone is working on it i didn't want them to "beat" it...
As i mentioned I pulled about 12-15 degrees in the middle primarily.
If I am actually racing i just turn off the switch.
You can look at your logs when you run and corelate the rpms with you timing and get an idea how much to pull back if you chose to leave the ASR engaged during heavy acceleration. With my ASR on it pretty much limits me to about 5 pounds of boost.
Feel free to pm or email if you need more help.
Best regards,
MO
Max mentioned what I said earlier in the post , if you totally turn off the ASR it acts weird...
By pulling the timing in the ASR parameter the throttle and brake effect will be less...
I did not totally pull mine as if I valet the car of someone is working on it i didn't want them to "beat" it...
As i mentioned I pulled about 12-15 degrees in the middle primarily.
If I am actually racing i just turn off the switch.
You can look at your logs when you run and corelate the rpms with you timing and get an idea how much to pull back if you chose to leave the ASR engaged during heavy acceleration. With my ASR on it pretty much limits me to about 5 pounds of boost.
Feel free to pm or email if you need more help.
Best regards,
MO
Last edited by Mo_Bandy; Feb 17, 2007 at 01:14 AM.
