Question for the C4 Tech crew
Le Mans Master
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I would think so, unless they were leaking .....and 108 is maxed. What I would do is first get that scanner up and flying, and not worry to much until some solid data could be attained. I read your post in scan and tune, I seem to remember Craig had a new one on his site with an auto feature. Try him around 10ish in the morning-to early afternoon...seems like a good time for a "walk through"
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He's in Baton Rouge I think.
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Le Mans Master
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I would think so, unless they were leaking .....and 108 is maxed. What I would do is first get that scanner up and flying, and not worry to much until some solid data could be attained. I read your post in scan and tune, I seem to remember Craig had a new one on his site with an auto feature. Try him around 10ish in the morning-to early afternoon...seems like a good time for a "walk through"
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I am very serious when I say my wifes Ford Explorer 4.0L could out run it. There is no power when WOT.
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just stating the obvious here, have you checked the timming on it?
what year is this?
how about some info on the car.
did you just get it?
have you ran out the tank of gas in it since purchase (you mentioned adding something to the gas)?
If you have old gas in it, it will run like ****. been there done that.
what year is this?
how about some info on the car.
did you just get it?
have you ran out the tank of gas in it since purchase (you mentioned adding something to the gas)?
If you have old gas in it, it will run like ****. been there done that.
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Good point, throwing a T. light on it might clear up if it is a gear/chain or other timing related , I would also check it with and w/out est.
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Le Mans Master
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just stating the obvious here, have you checked the timming on it?
what year is this?
how about some info on the car.
did you just get it?
have you ran out the tank of gas in it since purchase (you mentioned adding something to the gas)?
If you have old gas in it, it will run like ****. been there done that.
what year is this?
how about some info on the car.
did you just get it?
have you ran out the tank of gas in it since purchase (you mentioned adding something to the gas)?
If you have old gas in it, it will run like ****. been there done that.
This a 1986E project car that my father and I started in 2000. Everything to my knowledge is stock except for the EGR pipe was deleted and it has a hollow cat and Dynomax mufflers. The car was bought at a auction for having an engine fire. It sat up for ~4 years untouched. There is more to it than that. I ran out of gas one time, due to the gas guage reading full when it was empty, but the problem has been here for awhile before that.
Here is what she looks like.
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Le Mans Master
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that answers the laptop problem at least....hopefully you get the 98 version up and running. If that doesn't work out, try Marc Mansur, he would also be help find or probably has some 98 drivers.
Good point, throwing a T. light on it might clear up if it is a gear/chain or other timing related , I would also check it with and w/out est.
Good point, throwing a T. light on it might clear up if it is a gear/chain or other timing related , I would also check it with and w/out est.
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Don't have the laptop running yet.
I work with a guy that builds engines and is pretty knowledgable. I told him what was going on and he said it sounds like and ignition problem. Namely the igniton coil. This sounds like a posibility and I will need to investigate further.
My father rode with me some time back and said it sounds like an ignition problem also.
EDIT: wonder if this also has anything with my tach reading 88 all the time. The tach filter has been replaced.
I work with a guy that builds engines and is pretty knowledgable. I told him what was going on and he said it sounds like and ignition problem. Namely the igniton coil. This sounds like a posibility and I will need to investigate further.
My father rode with me some time back and said it sounds like an ignition problem also.
EDIT: wonder if this also has anything with my tach reading 88 all the time. The tach filter has been replaced.
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Don't have the laptop running yet.
I work with a guy that builds engines and is pretty knowledgable. I told him what was going on and he said it sounds like and ignition problem. Namely the igniton coil. This sounds like a posibility and I will need to investigate further.
My father rode with me some time back and said it sounds like an ignition problem also.
I work with a guy that builds engines and is pretty knowledgable. I told him what was going on and he said it sounds like and ignition problem. Namely the igniton coil. This sounds like a posibility and I will need to investigate further.
My father rode with me some time back and said it sounds like an ignition problem also.
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but after you try the coil, you need to get a scan log. I'd start with a full mechanical check again. compression test, leakdown test, valve lash, check the lifters (with a mag base) make sure they are all lifting and not saying open, check valve springs for anything broken. Set motor to TDC make sure the timing chain isn't off and #1 valves are both closed, stuff like that.
If you were local i'd have you swing by my shop. Sounds like a mystery i'd love to solve.
Someone mentioned it, did you check with a timing light, and rev the motor to make sure the EST was advancing properly? You could also have a bad ESC module.
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Have you put a vac gauge on it? I keep forgetting your car is '86 and running the MAF setup. I converted mine to MAP.
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but after you try the coil, you need to get a scan log. I'd start with a full mechanical check again. compression test, leakdown test, valve lash, check the lifters (with a mag base) make sure they are all lifting and not saying open, check valve springs for anything broken. Set motor to TDC make sure the timing chain isn't off and #1 valves are both closed, stuff like that.
If you were local i'd have you swing by my shop. Sounds like a mystery i'd love to solve.
Someone mentioned it, did you check with a timing light, and rev the motor to make sure the EST was advancing properly? You could also have a bad ESC module.
-- Joe
I don't want to beat a dead horse, but after you try the coil, you need to get a scan log. I'd start with a full mechanical check again. compression test, leakdown test, valve lash, check the lifters (with a mag base) make sure they are all lifting and not saying open, check valve springs for anything broken. Set motor to TDC make sure the timing chain isn't off and #1 valves are both closed, stuff like that.
If you were local i'd have you swing by my shop. Sounds like a mystery i'd love to solve.
Someone mentioned it, did you check with a timing light, and rev the motor to make sure the EST was advancing properly? You could also have a bad ESC module.
-- Joe
A fellow forum member contacted me today and has offered to help figure this thing out. He lives ~30 min away, the only problem is finding a good time to get together.
I am going to check the igniton coil when I get time, before just purchasing one and hoping.