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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I've have a friend that will paint any car for $200. What kind of fool would pay that much for a paint job?
What kind of paint brush is he going to use?I can get you a good deal on Rustoleum

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Old May 24, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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I got two quotes for full disassembly, full sand & prep and paint and re-assembly, $3500 on both quotes + the cost of the rubber molding

So figure $4000
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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Being a bodyshop manager I definitely know about painting Vettes. You really get what you pay for as long as it is a reputable shop. Make sure they have painted vettes before because they are a different animal. As far as your car goes around $3500 to $6000 would be a realistic price to disasemble, repair, paint, & reasemble. You can save money by doing some of the work yourself like the disasembly. A good tip that makes a huge difference for the static problem is to spray an alcohol based cleaner (I prefer the ppg cleaner) on the car with your spray gun right before you tack it off to spray it (just a nice wet coat) and right before you clear it.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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You can use foam rollers to apply Brightside Boat Paints to your cars...
Go here to see there results of a Camaro done in Bright Yellow Yacht Paint.CLick on that link and scroll down to see some pics.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...&fpart=11&vc=1

And heres another website where a guy rolled on paint,sanded between coats and when was done sanded and buffed to a hi shine..and this is a black car!These people were trying different paints and some failed and some work good.Brightside by yachtpaints.com can be rolled,brushed or sprayed on.

Heres the link...

http://swoolmer.bigblog.com.au/galle...etail&id=73542

Some used special foam rollers to get enough coverage and sanded and polished them to a mirror shine.Its different tha rustoleum painters using mineral spirits that requires 8-10 coats of coverage to get done.

Brightside Is a self leveling polyurethane paint that after 3 coats should give you an amazing finish.They use these on Boats,and are subjected to worse climatic conditions like salt water,sun,etc so it works well on cars too.They can be used straight out of the can with no thinners,reducers or additives.They do sell a thinner that helps to slow down the drying time,but is not always necessary to use.

Just another cheapo way to get your cars painted without the cost of astronomical shop charges if youre on a budget.Dont be fooled,you can get a show quality shine out of it.Painters spray on coverage and clear it off...the shine and work comes through with sanding and polishing.
Its not very different,just the application how its applied.Not telling you to DO this,just another alternative out there you can learn about.

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Old May 25, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LD85
I got two quotes for full disassembly, full sand & prep and paint and re-assembly, $3500 on both quotes + the cost of the rubber molding

So figure $4000
Hey Buddy,
Thats what I was quoted by a few shops at Indy some years back..around 4K will do it all.Only thing is,unless you trust your shop,every body shop cuts corners.

Warning for many,Most shops wont even do a full sand down and charge you for it anyways.When the car is done,even if it looks great,they could have spot sanded all the bad spots and painted over it.How ya gonna know?Its gonna shine when you get it back and you wont have any idea if they sanded enough down and resealed it to prevent further problems.You cant tell how thick it is.

The problem with that,is youre getting robbed for labor they charge but never do,and if the paint becomes too thick,its gonna crack down the road.It happened to my former 86.It was repainted too thick in the rear and the back paint at the 1/4 panels had thick cracks.I sanded the car down and could not beleive how much primer and paint was done over the GM spray job.

This car had the famous clear peeling off before I bought it and the shop that did it,scuffed,primered and layed alot of paint over the factory coats.When I got it,it cracked bad one summer.Sanding it down told me why.


Good luck though and hope you get the car nice!

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Old May 25, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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I painted one of my former Corvettes with spray cans. It took 6 cans to cover the entire car and my "spray" finger was cramped up for a day or so.

Total cost was $50 and it ended up looking awful, but much better than before I painted it!
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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Thats the professional way of saying to you, I don't want to paint Corvettes....the owners tend to be too picky.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by elefkow
Thats the professional way of saying to you, I don't want to paint Corvettes....the owners tend to be too picky.
LOL...I'd have to agree. One of my co-workers took his 85 to his local Maaco. First time they painted it, the painter was too lazy to bend down and paint lower sides of car, so he took it back. They tried fading some more new paint in and buffing it. It didn't work. After maybe a half dozen return trips, they finally told him they'd re-do the entire car. He just got it back last weekend. I asked him a few days ago how it turned out and I got the same look of disgust and eye roll from him as the first paint job....

I know a lucky few get decent paint jobs from those "express" paint shops, and they are DEFINITELY the exception and not the rule. I've also heard the "Oh, just tip the painter and you'll get a good job" BS. I tip my painter AFTER his job is done, not before in hopes that he'll spend the time needed to hopefully not make it look like crap, lol... Thankfully I have a shop that does all my work, and has an excellent body man and an excellent paint guy. You do indeed get what you pay for the majority of the time when it involves body and paint work.

I look at it this way...a truly excellent automotive painter is in demand and can work anywhere he wants and it's highly doubtful that their first choice is going to be a Maaco/Earl Scheib type bargain paint shop...Not even a remote possibility that he can earn the same money at a bargain shop, as he can at a high end paint facility, or any quality conscious shop.

Heck, if I have to do all the bodywork and prep, then wet sand and buff it out after it's painted, I might as well had painted it too.

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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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that s a good point, i paint clear top coats on guitars, sanding is a must!
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Road Agent
I've have a friend that will paint any car for $200. What kind of fool would pay that much for a paint job?
Your friend must use some real high quality stuff. Just the paint and associated materials (i.e. no body work materials) for my GTA cost me over $900 and that was at wholesale.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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there is some crazy people out there with some crazy talents, i wouldn't knock anyone anymore, or bet he he,
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by USA1LT1
I painted one of my former Corvettes with spray cans. It took 6 cans to cover the entire car and my "spray" finger was cramped up for a day or so.

Total cost was $50 and it ended up looking awful, but much better than before I painted it!
you did WHAT???? Where is that vette, let me do some bodywork on it.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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HERE HERE!! MY MAN!! HAD A 68 GTO i did that to, and as usuall, it looked better than it did before! LOL i was 18. he he! but i believe if you do it to a Corvette, the Corvette Police will come and take it away from you!
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Old May 25, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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You got to know the shop owner I have a friend who had Maaco paint his vette for a $1000 .The owner shot the paint himself .For the money I was very impressed.He did a very nice job. I am going to have the shop do mine when I am ready.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by snowmaker2000
you did WHAT???? Where is that vette, let me do some bodywork on it.
I sold the car and the new owner stripped all the paint off to do a restoration.

He said it had about 5 layers under the spray can paint job.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Bill those paint jobs with boat paint are unbelievable I gotta try it on a beater car.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by steven mack
Bill those paint jobs with boat paint are unbelievable I gotta try it on a beater car.

Gonna try this out over the summer on a old car I have..try and see if I can get the technique down.I dont have an air compressor anymore,nor any spray guns so thats expensive stuff Id need to buy to go back to spraying.That route is too much for me right now.

I wish I knew about this method years ago,I would have done some cars this way instead of selling them of cheap due to paint work needed or etc.

Theres a certain high density 4 inch foam rollers you can use to apply the paint..after a few coats the paint lines will disappear as the coverage grows and then when its all done,sand and polish to a high sine.

If you screw up,you can wet sand it back smooth and redo the area again.

On one of the websites,maybe the mopar paint link,one guy made a great point about DD cars or something,when you can do these paint jobs for just the cost of materials and your free time.

If you get a a parking lot scratch or scuff,its a very easy job to fix at home.No more 1,000 deductibles or 2000 repair bills from the body shop or Insurance comapanies to pay out and Jack your rates up,if you painted your car this way and can redo it at home.

Or keep the check for the estimate.


Seriously though,people have been doing paint jobs this way for years on boats,some cars and etc.Its just a different way of applying coverage to the car before final sand and shine.

I would never suggest this over a reputable shops show quality jobs that go for around 4-10K.Theres alot of good shops out there,for the money,that can do it with amazing results.

That being said,Its just an alternative to doing it cheap at home for the cost of materials,without the hassles of spraying the car with very expensive paint,reducers,hardneners and etc if one doesnt know what theyre doing.

The cheap way,you can learn as you go,and fix mistakes very easily and thats a plus.Just tedious though...gives ya arms a workout like you havent had in years.

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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill's86Coupe
You can use foam rollers to apply Brightside Boat Paints to your cars...
Go here to see there results of a Camaro done in Bright Yellow Yacht Paint.CLick on that link and scroll down to see some pics.

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...&fpart=11&vc=1

And heres another website where a guy rolled on paint,sanded between coats and when was done sanded and buffed to a hi shine..and this is a black car!These people were trying different paints and some failed and some work good.Brightside by yachtpaints.com can be rolled,brushed or sprayed on.

Heres the link...

http://swoolmer.bigblog.com.au/galle...etail&id=73542

Some used special foam rollers to get enough coverage and sanded and polished them to a mirror shine.Its different tha rustoleum painters using mineral spirits that requires 8-10 coats of coverage to get done.

Brightside Is a self leveling polyurethane paint that after 3 coats should give you an amazing finish.They use these on Boats,and are subjected to worse climatic conditions like salt water,sun,etc so it works well on cars too.They can be used straight out of the can with no thinners,reducers or additives.They do sell a thinner that helps to slow down the drying time,but is not always necessary to use.

Just another cheapo way to get your cars painted without the cost of astronomical shop charges if youre on a budget.Dont be fooled,you can get a show quality shine out of it.Painters spray on coverage and clear it off...the shine and work comes through with sanding and polishing.
Its not very different,just the application how its applied.Not telling you to DO this,just another alternative out there you can learn about.

That is Sweet! I am going to research this further,maybe I can paint my vette with a brush or roller,the paint on the black car looked good enough for me.
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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by anesthes
I guess you've never painted a vette before. heh. SMC/Fiberglass sucks.

Though 10k sounds a little on the high side, but not too much.

Heres mine. I did *all* the labor, and paid a body shop to just shoot it with sherwyn williams:

http://members.cisdi.com/~anesthes/projects/sanding/

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Seems like you new what you were doing. Looks pretty good.
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