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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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I just talked to my machinist about decking my block. He told me he likes to have at least .050 clearance including the head gasket. He said that parts can stretch and things can get close. I know some of you guys and a lot of other people are running zero.

I was wanting to deck it to .005 and run a .039 thick head gasket, .044 total.

Also my factory LT4 heads have been resurfaced. They removed .005 just to make sure they were good and flat..

I am trying to stay as close as I can to 10.8:1, .005 deck height will give me that. What do you guys think?
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
I just talked to my machinist about decking my block. He told me he likes to have at least .050 clearance including the head gasket. He said that parts can stretch and things can get close. I know some of you guys and a lot of other people are running zero.

I was wanting to deck it to .005 and run a .039 thick head gasket, .044 total.

Also my factory LT4 heads have been resurfaced. They removed .005 just to make sure they were good and flat..

I am trying to stay as close as I can to 10.8:1, .005 deck height will give me that. What do you guys think?
I think it's unfortunate that you chose a machinist who doesn't understand quench. Or else I think it's unfortunate that you chose a rotating assembly that's going to stretch that much...
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4

I was wanting to deck it to .005 and run a .039 thick head gasket, .044 total.
That is what I have and no problems. I'm not using any forged parts, though.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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I thought the stock "in the hole" was .025" (?) I could be wrong,
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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I'm running .041" quench and would have run it at .034-.035" except I didn't want to wait on special gaskets. .040" is generally considered to be quite safe.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LD85
I thought the stock "in the hole" was .025" (?) I could be wrong,
You are right, but...

What does STOCK have to do with anything???

Chevy puts their OK on .035", but what is hot rodding if it isn't pushing the limits. My new engine has a zero deck and I'm still P'ed at myself that the piston isn't sticking OUT of the hole.

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LD85
I thought the stock "in the hole" was .025" (?) I could be wrong,
Reading is fundamental.......
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Originally Posted by Vis Croceus
I think it's unfortunate that you chose a machinist who doesn't understand quench. Or else I think it's unfortunate that you chose a rotating assembly that's going to stretch that much...
I think its unfortunate that you even posted in this thread with that kind of attitude.....
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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I will be running a fully forged Eagle rotating assembly with forged Mahle pistons. I guess it probably wouldnt stretch that much, so I will have it decked to .005.
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Originally Posted by LD85
I thought the stock "in the hole" was .025" (?) I could be wrong,

I measured mine to be .026 on both sides, everything stock.
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
Reading is fundamental.......

With .025" in the hole, where is he going to get anything other than a copper gasket or a shim to end up with .050" ?

I have never found anything other than Flatout gaskets for like $150 or more a set, or SCE Copper gaskets, both of which I have personally used. Stretch is related to the piston speed and your max RPM's, so you decide.

Solution, deck it to .005" and get the stock .039" gasket and don't quibble over .002 or .003"
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I would take it down a lot further. A piston to head clearance of .044" isn't a tight quench. Either that or go the .005" deck height you planned and use one of the Impala head gaskets. Perfect!

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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
I would take it down a lot further. A piston to head clearance of .044" isn't a tight quench. Either that or go the .005" deck height you planned and use one of the Impala head gaskets. Perfect!

RACE ON!!!

Do you have a part number for the Impala gasket? Right now I have the Fel Pro 1074 that is .039.

What about this one?

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...6&autoview=sku

Never mind that is for an Iron head..

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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
I think its unfortunate that you even posted in this thread with that kind of attitude.....
I think it's unfortunate that you started this thread asking for people's opinions if you didn't want to hear them.

Good luck with the build, you're going to need it with that kind of attitude and that machinist...
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Originally Posted by Vis Croceus
I think it's unfortunate that you started this thread asking for people's opinions if you didn't want to hear them.

Good luck with the build, you're going to need it with that kind of attitude and that machinist...
Its guys like you who make me not want to post here. Some of us are here to learn, and do not already know everything.
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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
Do you have a part number for the Impala gasket? Right now I have the Fel Pro 1074 that is .039.
I don't. It has been posted here many times. I'm sure a search will turn up a part number for you. It is .028" thick, compressed. .028" + .005" = .033". Now THAT'S a nice quench!

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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
I don't. It has been posted here many times. I'm sure a search will turn up a part number for you. It is .028" thick, compressed. .028" + .005" = .033". Now THAT'S a nice quench!

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Originally Posted by 96lt4c4
Do you have a part number for the Impala gasket?
GM part # 12553160
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
GM part # 12553160
Thanks you sir
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Old Jun 12, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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I just did a search for that gasket, and Pace shows that it is for iron head engines. I guess you guys are running them on aluminum head engines with no problems? I am sure it has been talked about here before, I will do a search.

http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=180531
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