'89 won't start....
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Drifting
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From: Vacaville, CA
'89 won't start....
I have an '89 that has been modified for light track use; has an LT-1 motor with a Holly Commander for the EFI.
The car started prior to my tearing out the interior and now it won't start. I basically hooked everything back up; seats, door panels, center console and everything on the ACC, electric windows & seats move. The instrument panel lights up but the car won't turn over...
Is this the VATS going bad or did I disconnect something I shouldn't have? How does one disable the VATS?
Which fuse controls the start solenoid?
Lastly, how can I directly wire a push button start switch and get rid of all the extra electrical stuff leaving only the instruments, anti-skid, and brake lights?
Thanks!
The car started prior to my tearing out the interior and now it won't start. I basically hooked everything back up; seats, door panels, center console and everything on the ACC, electric windows & seats move. The instrument panel lights up but the car won't turn over...
Is this the VATS going bad or did I disconnect something I shouldn't have? How does one disable the VATS?
Which fuse controls the start solenoid?
Lastly, how can I directly wire a push button start switch and get rid of all the extra electrical stuff leaving only the instruments, anti-skid, and brake lights?
Thanks!
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From: Racine Wi
Vats
I believe the vats is the resistor in your key on this year. Measure the resistance on the chip in the key and install a resistor on the pair of small white wires inside the orange sleeve that matches. Make sure your connected on the car side and the key side is disconnected. Thst's the way we did it for remote starts. We used a relay for the remote starts but this does the same thing for good.
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Drifting
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Pack 24, I'm missing a few things here...
Where are the two small white wires?
Also, with the stock ECM removed isn't the VATS already overridden?
Where would I directly hook-up the remote start switcg in-place of the steering column ign switch?
Thanks!
Where are the two small white wires?
Also, with the stock ECM removed isn't the VATS already overridden?
Where would I directly hook-up the remote start switcg in-place of the steering column ign switch?
Thanks!
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From: Racine Wi
AT the column mainwires.
Directed Electronics may have the wiring diagrams for it. I can't seem to find my DEI sheets. Also check with Circuit City or Best Buy, they would be able print out a copy of the wire colors you need.
As for the VATS I guess your right because I believe it runs trough the ECM. The white wires were in an orange cover coming from the key switch. Normaly they had a small black plug along the way to be able to remove the column.
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Drifting
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From: Vacaville, CA
engle1147, I tried the bypassing the starter enable relay and I get the same results...No Start! Everything else works fine, but the starter won't even click.
The little battery symbol is illuminted on the fault panel...I charged the Optima battery for over an hour and it still won't turn over...
Anyone else know what may be causing this?
The little battery symbol is illuminted on the fault panel...I charged the Optima battery for over an hour and it still won't turn over...
Anyone else know what may be causing this?
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
IF it's a VATS issue (not too sure yet since you have had everything disconnected it at one point)...
Ill make this REALLY easy for you
www.vatssucks.com
the Early C4 stuff in there all taken from my own personal fight with VATS on my 89.
It's pretty easy to disable it all, but there is a LOT of it to disable.
If you have any questions, feel free to post up or PM me.
Ill make this REALLY easy for you
www.vatssucks.com
the Early C4 stuff in there all taken from my own personal fight with VATS on my 89.
It's pretty easy to disable it all, but there is a LOT of it to disable.
If you have any questions, feel free to post up or PM me.
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The small battery symbol on the idiot panel is illuminated throughout the time the ACC is on to attempting to turn the engine over....
Is this just a weak battery issue, I don't have a manual for the car and am not sure what that idiot light represents....
Is this just a weak battery issue, I don't have a manual for the car and am not sure what that idiot light represents....
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engle1147, I tried the bypassing the starter enable relay and I get the same results...No Start! Everything else works fine, but the starter won't even click.
The little battery symbol is illuminted on the fault panel...I charged the Optima battery for over an hour and it still won't turn over...
Anyone else know what may be causing this?
The little battery symbol is illuminted on the fault panel...I charged the Optima battery for over an hour and it still won't turn over...
Anyone else know what may be causing this?
One time, I had an alternator fail while driving the car on the interstate at night - the idiot light for the battery came on when the car was only running on the battery......I'm not sure what the battery had left for voltage when the light came on but the head lights got dim and so did the gage display pannel.....I turned off the head lights and drove the car in the dark of night, until it didn't have enough juice to fire the coil ~9 volts, until I made it to the next exit. I replaced the alternator and car was back to normal.