bhepp

Ya ive heard the pavillions are fun to go to and your right about the ricer comment, They all think they got somethin and only 1 out of 10 actually do if that.

vettin_it

yep just watch out for those evo's and sti's though.
I was cruisin an 84 for a while never really had a problem with any rice.
I try to go to the pavs as much as possible but its hard to get off work though. let me know if you head out there anytime

jhammons01

the guys with the S2000 are always fun.

vettin_it

the S2000 is a chick car plain and simple. Im pretty sure the makers of the fast and the furious agree.

CFI-EFI

Those test numbers for stock Corvettes prove nothing. I never said (there you go again) that a stock Crossfire was faster than than a stock TPI. It was YOU that said:You'd have to take a nap and a half for a 13.80 car to loose to a 14.10 car. What kind of case gets closed when you make a statement on one point and present proof for a totally different point? You have to have a real sense of humor to write stuff like that!

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crazy247

those R&T times are kinda bad IMO it says the standard is a 15.6 and mine is 24 years old and 180xxx Klm and im no means a good driver but i can get my at 14.7 with a horrible reaction time

elkabong

We should hook up at the Pavillions.

0Paul Ruggeri

Here's what you said CFI-EFI, "Stock TPIs are not a lot better than a Crossfire", "A home rodded Crossfire will run circles around a similarly rodded TPI". Both of these statements are laughably inaccurate. I'm not sure where you got the napping story or the 13.8-14.1 business, that wasn't from me.
Look, I don't want to get into a silly argument. The bottom line is TPI is a big improvement over CFI. That's a simple fact and all I'm saying. If people are happy with their CFIs, great I own 3 Corvettes, I work on Corvettes for a living. I don't have a problem with any year Corvette......................... Can't we all just get along?
Come on CFI-EFI, have a sense of humor, we're on the same side.

Paul

CFI-EFI

Your "horrible reaction time" is not a component of your ET. Funny how that works. Mine is 24 yours old too.

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qws

I've had exceptional good luck with mine with only 65k(silver) on it. Even my second one with 219k (red) is a daily driver. The red is fully stock with no engine modifications and from what I understand has had no major work done to it.
I think you'll be happy with the 84.

CFI-EFI

The "napping" was a word I introduced to emphasize a point. I'll leave it out. Here is my previous post in clearer, hopefully easier to understand language. You said:To back up and justify that statement you posted the TPI ET.There, you have established the new, stock, 1985 TPI was good for a 14.1 ET. My Crossfire runs 13.80s.

Now you know where "the 13.8-14.1 business" came from. You provided the 14.1 and I provided the 13.8. Therefore, your own numbers help disprove your statement of:Also, since I have learned to never say never, I don't want to be accused of saying that there isn't SOME TPI somewhere that isn't faster than my Crossfire. I, personally, haven't run across the numbers and certainly not the car. As a rule, my car out runs stock and mildly modified TPIs on a regular basis. My car has never been beaten by a TPI that was close to stock.

Thank you for the details on the "in car" head porting. I don't think I care to bend over the car for that long, nor to take the risk of wayward grindings getting into my engine. Besides, as I said, I don't think this tired old dog is really worth the effort.

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0Paul Ruggeri

OK, I see what you're saying about the times. I'm sure I've seen post by stock TPI owners with faster times. Maybe my memory is faulty. My main point is, all things being equal a TPI is faster than a Crossfire. I don't think that's debatable.
I agree that porting your heads on the car is a lot of work. I wouldn't do unless you're going to pull the manifold anyway and don't want to buy better heads. At the time, the 80s, this was a good solution.

Paul

Buccaneer

Hey bhepp, since you live in Phoenix we can meet up at the Pavilions this staurday if you like and meet some other CF owners and join our little group and talk about your CF motor more. We'll look for you anyway.

This CFI vs TPI discussion is getting rather boring and is pointless...

CFI-EFI

You may have. I'm not saying you haven't. *I* haven't.



I never tried.



Porting the heads on the car may have provided an affordable, alternative, "service" for some people, back in the day, but if I were of a mind to port my heads, I wouldn't be satisfied with what could be done with them on the car. Like I said, this engine has given it's all.



Does someone have a gun to your head? Feel free to leave at any time.

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Buccaneer

CFI-EFI

WHY???
I thoughtRACE ON!!!

Dominic Sorresso

IMO Xfire was intentionally held back so the TPI "looked" more powerful. Doesn't take much to get a Xfire to run with a TPI motor.
If I hadn't bought a ZR-1, the MR was going to be the next upgrade for my 84 Xfire. As it was, it trapped at 104.5mph with a Xfire manifold.
The motor is a SBC. So it responds to the same mods any SBC does.
Go visit 3rdGen.org to see what people have done with TBI motors.

bhepp

I might be down for tomorrow night at the pavil, If you see me in the car say what up!

Buccaneer

I'll be going up there this afternoon/tonight and hang out for a few hours, I'll look for you.

As for... The sputum that you post is hilarious and good entertainment about your CF, but still boring and pointless, just give it up already. This is just my opinion and I'm sure yours will vary.

CFI-EFI

WHICH is your opinion??? You have contradicted yourself in a single sentence. That type of hypocrisy defines the credence your posts deserve. Is it "hilarious and good entertainment" or is it "boring and pointless". Make up your mind if you have one.

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