Heads finally showed up!
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '05
THESE ARE THE HOTTEST SET OF HEADS ON THE MARKET. CHECK OUT THE CAR FORUMS, AND YOU WILL BE CONVINCED.
The overall design and the fact they are cnc bowl blended make these the best head on the market.
The overall design and the fact they are cnc bowl blended make these the best head on the market.
Intake: Exhaust:
.400 223 170
.500 252 183
.600 263 184
.700 270 185
.750 272
About the same as a moderately ported set of LT1 heads IMO.
Id really like to see the lower lift #s out of curiosity.
nice to know whats out there...
...Some of their sales pitch though cracks me up.
Drifting
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From: Port McNicoll Ontario
I'm sure we have different heads but you would think yours would at least say patriot on them.
I hope we both have good results with them.
Safety Car
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From: Salem NH
Intake: Exhaust:
.400 223 170
.500 252 183
.600 263 184
.700 270 185
.750 272
About the same as a moderately ported set of LT1 heads IMO.
Id really like to see the lower lift #s out of curiosity.
nice to know whats out there...
...Some of their sales pitch though cracks me up.
They are not bad I'm told.. Comparing them to LT1 heads is not really fair though. The LT1 castings happen to be pretty damn good. Compare them to some 128 or 113 castings (since these are SBC heads, and not LT1 heads) or even worse the iron L98 heads.
-- Joe
Drifting
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They've been around for a few years. I believe they started off as being called "pro toplines". Ebay sellers were selling unfnished castings for about $400 a pair. Then a few companies bought a ton of them, started machining them and selling them for $800+ a pair.
They are not bad I'm told.. Comparing them to LT1 heads is not really fair though. The LT1 castings happen to be pretty damn good. Compare them to some 128 or 113 castings (since these are SBC heads, and not LT1 heads) or even worse the iron L98 heads.
-- Joe
They are not bad I'm told.. Comparing them to LT1 heads is not really fair though. The LT1 castings happen to be pretty damn good. Compare them to some 128 or 113 castings (since these are SBC heads, and not LT1 heads) or even worse the iron L98 heads.
-- Joe
Patriot Heads are made in the USA and owned by their parent company Alabama Cylinder Heads.
Both companies have been around for a while and Patriot is known for making a decent LS head.
This doesn't mean that the heads will flow well or perform, just that they are not cheap crap made overseas.
The saying 'you get what you pay for' likely applies here but I bought them anyway.
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '05
I can never keep track of those two co's. Had heard that one of them was bought and sold more than once....ANyway Joe, youre right, just about anything is better than a stock 128/113.
Safety Car
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From: Salem NH
I don't think they are the pro topline heads.
Patriot Heads are made in the USA and owned by their parent company Alabama Cylinder Heads.
Both companies have been around for a while and Patriot is known for making a decent LS head.
This doesn't mean that the heads will flow well or perform, just that they are not cheap crap made overseas.
The saying 'you get what you pay for' likely applies here but I bought them anyway.
Patriot Heads are made in the USA and owned by their parent company Alabama Cylinder Heads.
Both companies have been around for a while and Patriot is known for making a decent LS head.
This doesn't mean that the heads will flow well or perform, just that they are not cheap crap made overseas.
The saying 'you get what you pay for' likely applies here but I bought them anyway.
I wouldn't discount overseas parts though. Most of the chinese parts I've bought over the years (scat, eagle, CAT, and so on) have been better than US union 'workmanship'. You pay Americans too much money, give them a strong union so they can't get fired, and they produce crap.
-- Joe
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Safety Car
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From: Dale City VA
I don't think they are the pro topline heads.
Patriot Heads are made in the USA and owned by their parent company Alabama Cylinder Heads.
Both companies have been around for a while and Patriot is known for making a decent LS head.
This doesn't mean that the heads will flow well or perform, just that they are not cheap crap made overseas.
The saying 'you get what you pay for' likely applies here but I bought them anyway.
Patriot Heads are made in the USA and owned by their parent company Alabama Cylinder Heads.
Both companies have been around for a while and Patriot is known for making a decent LS head.
This doesn't mean that the heads will flow well or perform, just that they are not cheap crap made overseas.
The saying 'you get what you pay for' likely applies here but I bought them anyway.
Patriot's LSX heads are factory castings they CNC port.
For the money they seem like a good deal for a street car, if Patriot can keep the QC in check. 250/180cfm @.500 is OK, but nothing to write home about, a good set of ported 113's will match them with comparable porting (hand or CNC) work from say LPE or CNC Heads.
Will
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Drifting
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From: Port McNicoll Ontario
When I see what CRV3TT3's heads flow, i will know whether to laugh or cry.
Drifting
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The casting comes from CHINA. The CNC port work and assembly is done here according to Patriot.
Patriot's LSX heads are factory castings they CNC port.
For the money they seem like a good deal for a street car, if Patriot can keep the QC in check. 250/180cfm @.500 is OK, but nothing to write home about, a good set of ported 113's will match them with comparable porting (hand or CNC) work from say LPE or CNC Heads.
Will
Patriot's LSX heads are factory castings they CNC port.
For the money they seem like a good deal for a street car, if Patriot can keep the QC in check. 250/180cfm @.500 is OK, but nothing to write home about, a good set of ported 113's will match them with comparable porting (hand or CNC) work from say LPE or CNC Heads.
Will
Sorry for hijacking your thread CRV3TT3.
From your info Will I'm ahead. For me to pick up a set of 113's and have them ported it would have cost me much more than what I paid for these heads.
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Melting Slicks
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The Vette is just so much nicer overall! Id rather quit wasting my time on the mustangs and build a real car!
Sorry to hijack. Just though it was funny we both did the same thing.
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Burning Brakes
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Been a mustang guy myself. Had a super slow 98 GT... sold it. Bought a modded 93 GT... sold it. Bought a 90 GT and had big plans for it including a pile of mods in the garage (306 shortblock, AFR 185's, Crane 1.6 rockers, Trickflow stage 2 cam (.551.,560 lift), full bolt ons ready)... selling it now along with all the parts i have in boxes since i bought my C4. LOL!
The Vette is just so much nicer overall! Id rather quit wasting my time on the mustangs and build a real car!
Sorry to hijack. Just though it was funny we both did the same thing.
The Vette is just so much nicer overall! Id rather quit wasting my time on the mustangs and build a real car!
Sorry to hijack. Just though it was funny we both did the same thing.
i had an 88 lx, 99 v6, and a 99 gt with a 100 shot!
Instructor
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Ever sense I read this I have been wondering what the issue is that the intake needs welded to match? Is this an issue with your intake or with the heads, would this be a problem on all intakes?
Joe
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-- Joe