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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 06:38 PM
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Ok, last annoying question as to my build.......

The stock CR was 10.25:1. The only thing I changed was the gasket. I went from .050 to .040. What is my CR now.
Just do the math. You know the bore, stroke, and the compression ratio. With that info, you can figure backward to the clearance volume. The clearance volume includes all the volumes you don't have specific numbers on, needed for a calculator, deck volume, piston dome or notch volume, gasket volume, etc., all in one package. Add the additional gasket volume to the old clearance volume and re-figure the new compression ratio. Easy.

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Just do the math. You know the bore, stroke, and the compression ratio. With that info, you can figure backward to the clearance volume. The clearance volume includes all the volumes you don't have specific numbers on, needed for a calculator, deck volume, piston dome or notch volume, gasket volume, etc., all in one package. Add the additional gasket volume to the old clearance volume and re-figure the new compression ratio. Easy.

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I figured it out. I got answers between 10.47 and 10.55....on the online calculators.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by aboatguy
Got it didn't disagree just was looking for the specs IE 54cc heads, -5cc pistons, .025 below the deck etc.

I wonder why GM would saddle a high compression engine with such a restrictive intake.
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So the torque monster can make even more torque.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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you really won't know what your c/r is. factory tolerance stack can be all over the place. for instance, yes while it's true that the "established stock" deck height is 0.025", mine measured out to 0.005", and it was never touched. that's quite a difference.

i'd say it's safe to still run 91 octane gas for about half the year. during the summer months especially, i'd run 93 octane and you should be good to go.

those two tts datamaster datalogs are going to be important. this is why you need to get them done & analyzed as soon as possible. you'll see knock counts that you may not hear -- this is very important. then alvin can pull back on timing just a tad in certain areas to compensate.

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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
Flat top pistons.....1989 had dished pistons and 9.5:1



Badduck...yes i know it has flat top
but does flat top pistons add any hp ?
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MK 82
Anyone have particulars on how this CR increase was achieved. I am just curious as to how.
Piston change, as stated its 10.25:1.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Calderone
Badduck...yes i know it has flat top
but does flat top pistons add any hp ?
Flat top pistons don't add HP but the compression they ad does, all else being equal.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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but this is my point ..
the 89 its rated at the same hp
but 90 got more CR
how's that ?
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Originally Posted by Calderone
but this is my point ..
the 89 its rated at the same hp
but 90 got more CR
how's that ?
90-91 camshaft is different.
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Let me explain myself better :

1989 :

Compression Ratio 9.5:1
Horsepower 245 hp @ 4,300 rpm (coupe w/ 3.07:1 axle)
240 hp (convert.)
Torque 340 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm



1990 :

Compression Ratio 10.25:1
Horsepower 250 hp @ 4,400 rpm (coupe)
245 hp @ 4,000 rpm (convert.)
Torque 350 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm (coupe)
345 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm (convert.)


Ok 1990 got 5 HP more ....
its because of the added compression ??????
5 HP with flat tops ? its too little

from 9.5 :1 to 10.25:1 its 5 hp ?

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He has a point? Let's call Gordon.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vader86
90-91 camshaft is different.
Originally Posted by MK 82
He has a point? Let's call Gordon.
See above.
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they pussified the 90-91 camshaft specs in order to offset/cut power, as the LT1 was being rolled out and GM could never have claimed a 50chp difference, would have been more like 25-35chp; this doesn't advertise as well and have a nice ring to it that 50hp does.

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Originally Posted by Calderone
Let me explain myself better :

1989 :

Compression Ratio 9.5:1
Horsepower 245 hp @ 4,300 rpm (coupe w/ 3.07:1 axle)
240 hp (convert.)
Torque 340 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm



1990 :

Compression Ratio 10.25:1
Horsepower 250 hp @ 4,400 rpm (coupe)
245 hp @ 4,000 rpm (convert.)
Torque 350 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm (coupe)
345 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm (convert.)


Ok 1990 got 5 HP more ....
its because of the added compression ??????
5 HP with flat tops ? its too little

from 9.5 :1 to 10.25:1 its 5 hp ?
The camshaft is different.

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Originally Posted by Calderone
Let me explain myself better :

1989 :

Compression Ratio 9.5:1
Horsepower 245 hp @ 4,300 rpm (coupe w/ 3.07:1 axle)
240 hp (convert.)
Torque 340 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm



1990 :

Compression Ratio 10.25:1
Horsepower 250 hp @ 4,400 rpm (coupe)
245 hp @ 4,000 rpm (convert.)
Torque 350 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm (coupe)
345 lb-ft @ 3,200 rpm (convert.)


Ok 1990 got 5 HP more ....
its because of the added compression ??????
5 HP with flat tops ? its too little

from 9.5 :1 to 10.25:1 its 5 hp ?
exhaust changes made the difference
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nah,this was what i was looking for :

they pussified the 90-91 camshaft specs in order to offset/cut power, as the LT1 was being rolled out and GM could never have claimed a 50chp difference, would have been more like 25-35chp; this doesn't advertise as well and have a nice ring to it that 50hp does.
I knew GM has something to do with it
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