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From: Bergen County, NJ Democrats, doing for the country what they did for Michigan
Brodix will outfit the heads to lift whatever you want. Mine are .600 my cam is .560. The are fitted with Comp Cam springs and guide plates.
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From: Bergen County, NJ Democrats, doing for the country what they did for Michigan
If you don't want to be corrected, don't post erroneous information. Actually, what ruins many public forums is internet ball slingers like you who post fiction as fact.
You can get pizzed off, and call me names all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you had your head "where the sun doesn't shine".
So don't whine like somehow you are the injured party.
You can get pizzed off, and call me names all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you had your head "where the sun doesn't shine".
So don't whine like somehow you are the injured party.
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From: Bergen County, NJ Democrats, doing for the country what they did for Michigan
To the OP, I think you're going about this the right way.
You're looking at $$$ vs. performance and trying to get a good bang for the buck. The real truth of the matter is no one can tell you exactly IF you are leaving anything on the table with a particular brand, or HOW MUCH you're leaving on the table, so don't sweat it. Look at all the brands that are in your price range, then start picking them apart.
If you're not running headers, IMO, the IKs are a great bang for the buck. If you are running headers, please check with your header manufacturer which they prefer, angled or straight.
You're looking at $$$ vs. performance and trying to get a good bang for the buck. The real truth of the matter is no one can tell you exactly IF you are leaving anything on the table with a particular brand, or HOW MUCH you're leaving on the table, so don't sweat it. Look at all the brands that are in your price range, then start picking them apart.
If you're not running headers, IMO, the IKs are a great bang for the buck. If you are running headers, please check with your header manufacturer which they prefer, angled or straight.
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07
If you don't want to be corrected, don't post erroneous information. Actually, what ruins many public forums is internet ball slingers like you who post fiction as fact.
You can get pizzed off, and call me names all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you had your head "where the sun doesn't shine".
So don't whine like somehow you are the injured party.
You can get pizzed off, and call me names all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you had your head "where the sun doesn't shine".
So don't whine like somehow you are the injured party.
But I guess your not man enough to admit when your wrong.
Congratulations, John, you have a forum toadie.
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forgetting the BBK TB and Airfoil mang...thats why it won't run!
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if someone wants to give me cam specs, head flow/cc's, valve sizes, and estimated compression i can give an approximate number...running Desktop Dyno is a nightly thing for me with my comtemplating what to do with the 427 so i can piece together a roadmap for mods OR what im going to do with my 77 thats just sitting in dire need of work...
i have at least one solid street 350 spec'd out right now thats around 350hp/400tq with stock vortec heads, but requires premium 92 or better as it is set to run 10.5:1 compression. Estimated cost to build the motor (induction not included) is well under 1500 bucks...heads included...
i have at least one solid street 350 spec'd out right now thats around 350hp/400tq with stock vortec heads, but requires premium 92 or better as it is set to run 10.5:1 compression. Estimated cost to build the motor (induction not included) is well under 1500 bucks...heads included...
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John, let me know when you take it to the track, I may drive up to take a look.
Randy
BTW, I thought the FIRST intake was all the rage now, but then it all changes so quicky.
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[QUOTE=RandyJ75;1564627956]For the last time, I said that, on the link provided by the OP, the max lift was .525, and that he should contact Brodix, to see if they offered better springs. Any one who read the thread knows I am right.
But I guess your not man enough to admit when your wrong.
I have no problem admitting I'm wrong when I am. In your case it's a matter of simply being so dumb you didn't think about the fact that the valve spring is the major determining factor in maximum valve lift on any head. You simply quoted the first number you saw. That is lazy and unhelpful. Why not provide accurate information as I did rather than some half azz statement that is WRONG?
I certainly hope that this is the last time you make excuses for your ignorance and misinformation. However, I doubt that it will be.
But I guess your not man enough to admit when your wrong.
I have no problem admitting I'm wrong when I am. In your case it's a matter of simply being so dumb you didn't think about the fact that the valve spring is the major determining factor in maximum valve lift on any head. You simply quoted the first number you saw. That is lazy and unhelpful. Why not provide accurate information as I did rather than some half azz statement that is WRONG?
I certainly hope that this is the last time you make excuses for your ignorance and misinformation. However, I doubt that it will be.
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I'll look forward to it.
FWIW, I'm not saying this is going to be the fastest car around, hell, far from it. I am just saying that it's not going to be slower than interweb folklore motor, maybe faster. I took MONTHS to understand and figure things out and talked to real people who do this daily. LIke I said, engine builders, Accel engineers, lingenfelter engineers, the injector guy..etc.... I read ZERO magazines and I am dam proud of it.
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You are a complete azz. I said in my original post that the link provided stated that the max lift was .525. I then said the OP should contact Brodix and see if they offered springs that provide a higher lift. That is because in researching MANY different heads, I know that most heads are offered w/ different lift springs. Tell me what is wrong about that statement? Your own response says that it is correct, so whats your point? Just trying to pick a fight? I never said I checked w/ Brodix's web site. When it comes to understanding how heads are sold, you need to read more than one site.
Let me ask a question. Do you have a set of aftermarket heads on your car? Or are you just some azz who read a couple of posts and Brodix's web site, and thinks that makes you some kind of expert. Azz's like you are whats killing this forum. Now your going after me because you think it makes you look smart, while in reality it only makes you look like the complete azz that you are.
To the OP, I apologize that your thread turn into a pissing match because of this a**hole, but this happens some times on a public forum. I hope you have enough info that you feel confident in your choice of heads.
Randy
Let me ask a question. Do you have a set of aftermarket heads on your car? Or are you just some azz who read a couple of posts and Brodix's web site, and thinks that makes you some kind of expert. Azz's like you are whats killing this forum. Now your going after me because you think it makes you look smart, while in reality it only makes you look like the complete azz that you are.
To the OP, I apologize that your thread turn into a pissing match because of this a**hole, but this happens some times on a public forum. I hope you have enough info that you feel confident in your choice of heads.
Randy
You were wrong, yet you are calling people names and making excuses. I am simply stating the correct information and you want to childishly make things personal.If you can't take being wrong and having it pointed out, you should do your homework or go somewhere else. You sound like a nine year old who has just learned to curse showing off for his buddies. Get over yourself!
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Or maybe you are more proud of this rant!
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From: Springfield MA
hey guy i think i have my heads
Dart 180 (http://www.dartheads.com/products/he...num-heads.html)
has a 49cc and is angle plug, good flow, 2.02, 1.60 value size, it is iron but im willing to take the hit.
my question is "Will i have clearance problems with the values and pistions?"
also if you check the spec sheet on the site the max lift is 1.700"/.520 and 1.800"/.620. should i just go with the springs that came with the cam??
Dart 180 (http://www.dartheads.com/products/he...num-heads.html)
has a 49cc and is angle plug, good flow, 2.02, 1.60 value size, it is iron but im willing to take the hit.
my question is "Will i have clearance problems with the values and pistions?"
also if you check the spec sheet on the site the max lift is 1.700"/.520 and 1.800"/.620. should i just go with the springs that came with the cam??